Nov. 7, 2023

Episode 367 – Rachel Kilmer, ReeceNichols Real Estate

Episode 367 – Rachel Kilmer, ReeceNichols Real Estate

Rachel Kilmer is a renowned real estate agent with Reese Nichols Real Estate in Kansas City, Missouri, who has successfully leveraged her background in sports and video production to excel in her career. Rachel's perspective on success in real estate and the use of social media is rooted in authenticity and personal strengths. She believes that one should not force themselves to adopt marketing strategies that do not align with their interests or cause anxiety. Instead, she encourages individuals to focus on what they are good at and build their business in a way that reflects their personality. This approach, she believes, not only yields a better return on investment of time but also produces more authentic content. Join Bill Risser and Rachel Kilmer on this episode of The Real Estate Sessions podcast to learn more about her unique approach to real estate and social media.

Rachel Kilmer is a successful real estate agent with Reese Nichols Real Estate in Kansas City, Missouri. With a background in sports and a previous desire to become a social worker, Rachel found her calling in the real estate industry. She gained recognition by winning a contest held by the Kansas City Chiefs, which allowed her to be a sideline reporter for a day. Rachel's experience in video production and her involvement in marketing and social media have contributed to her success in the real estate business. She emphasizes the importance of doing what you're good at and enjoying it, rather than following trends that may cause anxiety. Rachel values teamwork and provides support to her team members, including an operations manager who handles paperwork and marketing. She is active on social media platforms such as TikTok, Instagram, and Facebook, where she can be contacted.

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But if you feel like you have to do

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video because it's like the trendy thing that everyone's

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talking about, but the thought of doing video makes

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you feel like you're gonna have a nightmare, don't

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do it like it's not going to work for

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you if it's not fun for you. So if

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giving shooting video gives you anxiety, do what you're

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good at, because I'm sure I'm not good at

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what you're good at.

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Hi, everybody. Welcome to episode 367 of the Real

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Estate Sessions podcast. As always, thank you so much

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for tuning in. Thank you so much for telling

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a friend. Today we're going to venture over to

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Kansas City, Missouri, in the Midwest. We're going to

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be talking to Rachel Kilmer. She's with Reese Nichols

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real Estate. She is doing some amazing marketing, and

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she has one heck of a background. I'm not

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going to tell you what it is here. I

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want to surprise you as we get into the

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episode. So, Rachel, welcome to the podcast.

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Thank you so much for having me. I'm so

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excited to be here.

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I can't tell you how excited I am. This

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is going to be great. Your background is right

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up my alley. And I think that so many

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times when I go into the research for a

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podcast guest and I'm looking at how did they

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get started? What was their life like? It's kind

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of like, oh, this is different. Very different. Yours

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is awesome. So let's get started right there. So

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you live in Kansas City. I'm going to assume

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that you're a native Kansas Cityan. Is that how

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you say it?

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You nailed it. Yes. I'm from a town about

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25 miles east of downtown, and we all claim

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Kansas City. Though if you're, like, within a 30,

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40 minutes drive of downtown, you just say you're

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from Kansas City.

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It keeps it simple, just real easy. Okay. And

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then what should we know that we don't know?

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Now, it's not the barbecue thing. Everybody knows about

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that, right. The sports we'll talk about shortly. But

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what should we know about your hometown?

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Well, that's a fun thing that people don't realize

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when people say they're from Kansas City. We only

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have about 500,000 people that actually live in KCMO.

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And our metro as a whole has a population

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of over 2 million. So the vast majority of

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people that call Kansas City home are living in

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a suburb or a small community around the city.

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But the city still is the heartbeat of our

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community, for sure.

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Yeah. How about the biggest misconception?

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I think it is the big boo boo mistake

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that celebrities make or performers when they come and

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apparently they aren't coached up right. And they get

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on stage and they go, what's up Kansas? And

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then they get booed before they even start their

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show because they don't know which side of the

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state line.

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They'Re yeah, let's talk about that for a second.

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For the geographically challenged that are listening in, you

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can help us with this because here's what I

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know. Tell me if I'm right. Kansas City is

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not in Kansas. It's in Missouri. But it's right

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across a river. I don't know the name of

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the river. Missouri river. I'll just guess. Okay, good.

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It's right across the Missouri River from this this

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blew me away. I was doing a little bit

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of digging. But you're closer to the Jayhawks than

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you are to the Tigers. You're closer to Ku

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than Mu where you live. Is that right?

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It depends on which part of the metro you

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live in. But yes, all of this dates back

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to the Civil War. The term jayhawk was the

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jayhawkers. So Missouri and Kansas absolutely hated each other

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during the Civil War. Kansas was a free state.

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Missouri couldn't make up their minds and so they

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were playing both sides. So the sports rivalry there

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is so real, but actually dates back to real

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legitimate political rivalry and actually war back in the

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day. And now the state line, some of it

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is along the river, but most of it's actually

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not. It's a road literally called state line Road

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that separates Missouri and Kansas. And when it snows,

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one side will be plowed and the other won't

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be plowed yet because that side's owned by one

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state and the other side's owned by the other

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state. So it's really crazy. You can't really tell

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when you're in Missouri or Kansas. But yes, Kansas

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City, when you think of Kansas City, the actual

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city is in Missouri. So like things like the

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Chiefs and the Royals, they're on the Missouri side.

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But we have tons of stuff on the Kansas

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side, too, like Sporting KC, the NASCAR track, that's

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all on the Kansas side. So to further confuse

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things, there also is a city called Kansas City,

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Kansas that has a smaller population. I want to

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say they're about 50,000 and they have their own

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mayor, their own separate municipality. And then there's a

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third city called North Kansas City that's in the

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Missouri side. Again, separate municipality, separate mayor and everything.

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So yeah, it's all wacky. But that's a big

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mistake people make when they come to visit. You

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have to know where you are and you have

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to know where your allegiance is.

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Yeah, I was going to say. And there's still

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a sense of rivalry with I would imagine. Well,

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maybe not because Royals cardinals doesn't really work because

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it's Al NL and the Cardinals are more the

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Cubs, right. And all that stuff. I'm just curious.

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We'll just jump in there real quick. The Royals.

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Do the Royals have a rival?

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Well, we think it's the Cardinals. We have such

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bad little brother syndrome with St. Louis. It is

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such a thing. Kansas Cityans. Love to hate on

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St. Louis. They think they're so great, and they're

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thin crust pizza and their fried ravioli, and the

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St. Louis Kansas City thing has been real forever.

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But think back to the World Series 85 with

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the play at first, and so that's when Kaufman

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Stadium fills up the most is Cardinals games, for

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sure. And some of it is people in red,

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obviously, but Royals fans turn out. We love to

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hate the Cardinals. We love to hate St. Louis,

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but we're well aware that they really don't care

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about us because they got the Cubs over there.

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Okay, that's great. So I like to ask this

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question a lot of my guests, because 15 year

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old Rachel, you're in high school. You're probably thinking

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a little bit about what you want to do.

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What were you thinking was going to be your

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career at that point in your life?

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Well, at that point, I really wanted to be

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a social worker. I really wanted to work with

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children, and that's what I went to college for

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to start out with, actually. But my major was

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cut for my university, so I kind of had

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to go back to the drawing board after my

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freshman year. And my roommates were like, you know

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what we're really sick of is listening to you

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talk about sports. This is not normal behavior, so

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please go do something with that. So they encouraged

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me to pursue that, and I was like, well,

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that's like being an actress or something. That's not

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a real job. But the more I researched, I

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realized it was. And the Chiefs just so happened

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to have this contest that year where they were

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doing an online campaign for someone to be the

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sideline reporter for a day. So I took my

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iPhone two or whatever iPhone was out at the

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time and went up to training camp and shot

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a video of talking about all the players submitted

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it, and I was chosen to be one of

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five finalists. The other four finalists were actual journalism

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students with actual demo reels. But because I'm from

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a small community, it was down to a fan

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vote. And when you're from a small town, your

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people rally around you. So I ended up winning

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that and got to be the first time I

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was ever in front of a camera. A real

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camera was standing on Lambeau Field with Trent Green

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in the booth, and I'm 19 years old. Wow.

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How cool is that?

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It was wild. So if you would have told

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little 15 year old me that that would happen,

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I would have died of joy. I just didn't

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think it was a real possibility. But life has

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a funny way of working.

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The love of sports came from where was it?

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Family?

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My dad. My dad. When I was growing up,

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we had a small business sports shop, so we

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sold hats, jerseys, all of that. So I'm like

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nine years old, working the cast register, like, you

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want the Jared Allen jersey? Do you want the

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three stitches or the two stitches? He also is

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a college football official, still is. So I grew

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up watching film with him after his game. So

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we'd sit in the living room and watch his

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film together, and he'd show me like, oh, that's

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what OPI versus EPI and all of so he's

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doing his homework.

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He's critiquing his team, basically. Himself and his team.

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Oh, yeah, they watch film, they get bit. It's

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a whole thing. So I really had no choice

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to be a sports.

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That makes so you go to Missoul, which the

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good news is it's a great school for journalism,

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right? I mean, it's one maybe the best, could

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be the best in the world, I hear people

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say. Is that possible?

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I would say this I would say this as

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a completely unbiased person with my degree from the

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University of Missouri. Yeah, actually, my freshman year, I

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went to D Two school called Northwest Missouri State,

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which is one of the best football schools in

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D Two. But after I won that thing with

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the Chiefs, that's when I went to Missoul to

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go to the journalism school. I was not there

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very long, though. So I'm not, like, the most

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diehard Missouri fan in the world because I was

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only on campus for three months because I applied

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for a job in the second smallest TV market

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in the country in North Platte, Nebraska. Really? Just

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applied to practice putting together a demo reel, doing

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an interview and all that. And for some reason,

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they hired me. I started there in May. I

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turned 22 months prior in March, so barely 20

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years old, and they hired me. So I packed

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up my little apartment and moved out to Western

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Nebraska to start my TV career and then finished

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my degree online through the University of Missouri.

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Wow, that's great. I love that. So we got

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to talk a little sports here, right? So you

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got the Chiefs, the Royals, I guess. Tigers, jayhawks.

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Those are the big key things that really probably

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keep Kansas City people know blood pumping. Am I

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missing anything on that list?

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There's a huge K State we can't forget. The

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Wildcats, like, tons of KSU fans in Kansas City.

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Aren't they too far away?

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It's really not that far, so don't make that

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mistake in Kansas City.

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All right?

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And then we also are like a soccer headquarters

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right now, too. We have sporting casey has been

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around for a long time. They were the Wizards

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before that. But the campus current is building the

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first stadium dedicated to a women's professional soccer team

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in the world, and they are a hot ticket

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right now. They're currently playing at Sporting Stadium, and

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they're selling more tickets at Sporting Stadium than there

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are seats in their new stadium. So this stadium

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is going to be sold out every single game.

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And soccer is just having a moment in Kansas

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City. So definitely don't forget about our two soccer

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teams.

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I've got some friends who are huge soccer fans.

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They'll love to hear that. That's great. I want

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to talk a little bit about your role in

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the sports world, working as a journalist. First off,

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your favorite team, is it the Chiefs or is

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it something else easily?

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The Chiefs. Yes.

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Yeah. I'm just thinking that was a to. You

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had to do some interviews of players over the

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years.

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I did.

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How about your easiest interview? Someone who was just

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a delight to talk to and you knew it

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was going to be fun, hands down.

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Bill Self charming, easy to talk to. He'll roll

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with almost any question. Even if he's in a

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bad mood, he still has funny answers. I always

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enjoyed interviewing self.

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And then now that you're out of the business,

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the toughest, the one that you're like, this is

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always a battle.

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There are lots of players that like to be

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difficult, but the one that I was shaking in

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my booth, literally before I asked a question of

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him was Greg Marshall. He could be so mean,

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and he one of my coworkers. He just hated

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him. I don't know why, but every time he

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asked a question, he would just get this sarcastic

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look on his face and you're so yeah. Oh,

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Greg. I was not sad to leave Wichita to

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have to stop interviewing Greg Marshall sitting in those

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press conferences.

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That's good. I like that. And then one other

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question. I know this is really probably super inappropriate,

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but how the hell do the Chiefs not score

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a touchdown in Denver.

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Last know that's really inappropriate for you to bring

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up. I'm trying to put that behind soon.

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Is that we're saying too soon?

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Too soon, too soon? I don't know. I don't

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know. I mean, I know Patrick was sick with

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the flu. I saw his wife post on Instagram.

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This is still Kansas City, but like, Monday she

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posted that the kids were sick, and I was,

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oh, no. Like, I hope Patrick doesn't get sick,

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and lo and behold, he gets sick. But I

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don't know. We talked about the offensive line earlier.

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They were terrible in that game. And it's not

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like the Broncos D line is something to write

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home about. So the Chiefs are known for having

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this one lay an egg game in the middle

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of the season, so I'm hoping that was it.

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And then they can kind of put things together

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moving forward from here, get.

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Back on track, finish like 14 and three or

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whatever they always do seem to do lately.

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Exactly.

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All right, good. We're really happy for you, Rachel.

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I'm sure you are. I'm sure no one's bitter

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and jealous out there at all.

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All right, we got to get this to real

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estate, but we could do a whole nother hour

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right there. But let's start with so you're moving

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along in the sports journalism arena. Things are going

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good, but there's something, some driving force, something pulled

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you into real estate. What's that story?

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So in the journalism world, you move around a

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lot. It's almost like military life. Every two or

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three years, your contract's up, you have to move

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again. I had finally gotten to Kansas City, which

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is where I'm from, and wanted to. My goal

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all along was to get back to Kansas City,

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and then the TV station that I was at

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was a sports specific channel, basically shut down. So

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I knew that I was going to be laid

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off. I just was a matter of not if,

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but when. And that whole time I had decided,

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if I can't find another TV job in Kansas

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City, then I'm going to switch industries because I

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don't want to leave home again. So at that

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point, I ended up working an inside sales job

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at a local senior living community and realized that

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I love sales. What I didn't love was going

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and sitting in an office every day. So in

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2020, in March of 2020, when the world fell

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apart, I had my first child, and I was

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like, I don't want to be driving and sitting

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in an office all day when I'm doing sales,

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which is primarily phone calls, emails, stuff that I

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can do from anywhere. So I decided to quit

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this job that I truly loved, that job. Like,

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if there was more flexibility, I probably wouldn't have

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left, but quit a really steady, stable, good, solid

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job that I could have worked forever to jump

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into real estate, knowing that there's an 80% chance

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of failure in my first five years with a

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newborn baby at home in the middle of a

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pandemic. So maybe not my smartest choice ever, but

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it's worked out so far.

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Yeah. Look, I think it's first of all, the

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fact that you knew all that, I think, going

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in, right. You did some research, it sounds like,

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and you knew that it's really tough to get

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it rolling. But once you do, and once you've

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found the flow, I guess we'll use that phrase

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that's popular, you're doing some great stuff. So I

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want to ask about three short years you started

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in 2020. It's 2023, so maybe three and a

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half years. You've really had some great success. What

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helped you get started? Was there a mentor? Was

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it who you started with as far as a

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company? Was it just your energy? What do you

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think?

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All of the above. Definitely my mentors. I joined

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a team of two ladies that had been selling

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real estate for a combined probably 60 years, and

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they really had never taken a new person on

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their team other than their own children when their

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own children decided to try real estate. And so

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they welcomed me in with open arms and just

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opened up their brains and let me just dig

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in and take all of their knowledge from them.

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So that cut down my learning curve so much.

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And my brokerage is really great. They offer a

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ton of training, so I just took every training

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class I could. And then I also had a

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little boost from social media, so that was huge

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for me getting started as well.

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Yeah. So you had followers already from the sports

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side of things, and so it was really easy

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to kind of just tailor the content. Is that

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kind of what you did? A little bit.

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A little bit. I did have some followers on

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Instagram and my Facebook business page. Like, I have

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the old blue check mark from my sports reporter

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days. It's gone now because I changed my name,

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but where I really found my home was TikTok.

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And I had been avoiding TikTok because I felt

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like I was too old for it. I'm 30

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now, so I'm like late 20s, but it sounds

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crazy, but I thought that's just for teenagers. But

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man, Kansas Cityans love to consume Kansas City content.

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So as soon as I started creating videos about

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Kansas City, I found my community right away. And

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those are the people that I work with day

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in and day out to this day.

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Are you also finding people that have to relocate

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to Kansas City, finding your stuff? Is that part

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of yes?

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As yes, absolutely.

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I've watched a lot of your stuff. It's really

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mean. And once know it's, it's that having that

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ability to just be carefree in front of a

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camera, right. Which most people just freeze up and

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turn into zombies. Like you can see they're reading

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something. I'd like to get your take on this

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for every one of those great TikToks videos I

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see. How many takes did you take? I always

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like to ask that. Are you kind of a

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one shot, Willie? You just get it or is

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it I'll just add over a couple more times

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before I'm happy?

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Well, if I'm like talking to the camera, it's

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usually just one take for the most part, just

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because that's natural to me. That's what I did

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for a living for six years, so that's easy

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for me. The ones that require a lot of

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takes are the ones that are like the TikTok

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trends that require dance moves or transitions or like,

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mouthing words. Those are like skills that I just

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don't naturally have. So those ones require more takes

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and are really embarrassing if someone catches me trying

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to make them.

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Which happens right. Because your stuff's out in the

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street everywhere, right. Or in a business and all

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that great stuff.

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Yeah.

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So because you moved to a different level in

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the world of real estate when it comes to

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video, it's fantastic stuff. Do you have advice for

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agents must come to you? Or somebody says, I'm

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sure your brokerage, Reese Nichols, probably says, hey, could

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you talk to the team about making videos?

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Yeah, I've talked to my brokerage. I've spoken at

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a couple of other brokerages. I've spoken had done

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some social media panels. I get asked a lot.

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So what I actually just did breaking news, this

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just came out. I made an e course. Just

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giving all of my tips. It's like literally there's

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a downloadable with like step by step what I

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do every single day on every single platform, how

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to create videos, all that good stuff. That's up

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on my website, Rachelcasey.com. But my biggest piece of

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advice is if you want to do video, do

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it. Go learn, take the e course, go to

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free classes, whatever you want to do. But if

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you feel like you have to do video because

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it's like the trendy thing that everyone's talking about,

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but the thought of doing video makes you feel

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like you're going to have a nightmare, don't do

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it. It's not going to work for you if

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it's not fun for you. So if shooting video

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gives you anxiety, do what you're good at, because

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I'm sure I'm not good at what you're good

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at. It's just like people that force video because

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they feel like they have to. I feel like

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they're doing themselves a disservice by trying to make

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it happen when it just is making them miserable.

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Yeah. And it's noticeable on the content that's created.

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Right. I think that's the biggest thing you see

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someone who just doesn't it's a skill, I imagine

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to an extent, you can learn it. You could

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get there if you really decided, I want this

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to work, I'll get better, I'll get better. That

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could happen. But boy, if you're never going to

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embrace it, stay away.

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I just think the return on investment of your

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time, if it's not coming naturally to you, is

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going to be difficult. And there's things that you

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are already good at. Like for me, I hate

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networking events. Like, I hate going mingling through a

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room. I can do it, but it leaves me

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exhausted after. But there are some people that just

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thrive in those settings. So it's like you do

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that to build your business. I'm not going to

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do it because it won't look natural or feel

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natural, but for you it does and or whatever

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it is that you're good at that I'm not.

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So I think it's just really important that your

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business is a reflection of you as a person

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and focusing on marketing things that feel really natural

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to you.

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Yeah, that's great. We'll make sure you put the

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link to your website in the show notes, right.

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So people can get access to that e course.

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That's great. I love the fact you're sharing those

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tips because I think it's been the year of

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video in real estate since like 2010. Here we

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are in 2023, and people are still it's definitely

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shifted long form to short form to all this

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great stuff. So a lot of fun. Look, I

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can't not ask this question after looking at some

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of the stuff you're doing online. And you know

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what? I'm coming to it's. Tavis, which I had

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not heard that one yet. I'd heard a bunch

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of other combos, but I guess Kansas City, it's

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your so, but Taylor Swift and Travis Kelsey, you've

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spun up some great content around this. Can I

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assume you're a Swiftie? Is there something in your

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background that.

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Says you just my age and all of my

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demographics? I'm like a classic swifty.

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You fit right in. Exactly. Yeah. So, first of,

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this is this thing huge in Kansas City. I'm

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sure there's some sports talk people going, this is

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stupid. I don't want to deal with there's a

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guys my age that hate this. My guess is

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it's popular.

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It's so popular. And I am a weirdo that

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does listen to sports talk radio, like every single

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day. And I will give credit to know middle

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aged white men that are hosting all of the

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sports talk radio shows in Kansas City. I haven't

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heard one of them be a curmudgeon about it.

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So I applaud to them because they're like, this

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is fun. It's putting our city on a worldwide

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stage. It's love. Everyone loves love. So in Kansas

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City, I've seen some people on Facebook be grumpy

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about it for the most part. I think people

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are really excited about it. We love Travis. And

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if you don't love Taylor Swift, then that's a

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you problem, not a Taylor problem, because she is

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just.

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To be a it tends to be a certain

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age and and gender struggles with all of that.

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So I think that's great for you, creating that

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content. Then it's just drop dead simple. That's a

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no brainer.

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Yeah, it's just organic for me. That's what I'm

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thinking about all day. Every like, my brain is

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like my child real estate and then Taylor and

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Travis is the rest of it. We actually had

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a pop up party when Taylor's eras tour came

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to Kansas City this summer. So this is before

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they were dating, before they had even met. And

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we I say we, my team, we went to

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a local distillery that has a really great brand

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recognition in Kansas City and said, hey, can we

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have a pop up party here? And they were

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sure, like, we'll give you that little corner in

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the back of the venue. And I was like,

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you guys, I don't think you understand how popular

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Taylor Swift is. Like, this is going to be

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a huge event. And they were, okay, okay. And

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then the night of, they were absolutely overwhelmed. We

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had literally thousands of people. There was a line

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around the door waiting to come in to celebrate

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Taylor swift's eras tour coming to Kansas City. And

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this is before the Travis Kelsey mania began. So

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that was great for my business because I got

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to meet all of these Swifties who are like

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minded with me and I love working with people

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that we get along great. We have a shared

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sense of humor, a shared kind of language almost.

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So we actually just closed. My team closed last

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week a house from someone that we met at

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the Taylor Swift event this summer. So it is

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huge and very natural for me to make content

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about. And then once Travis and Taylor the rumors

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started swirling about them, I was like, of course

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making content because I'm like, there's no way this

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is true. I was at the chiefs game the

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day that she showed up and I swear I

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blacked out. I was like, I can't believe Taylor

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Swift is wearing a chiefs jacket and banging on

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the glass right now. Like she is one of.

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Wonder. I'm sure her knowledge of the game is

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not quite up to par with you, though. She

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might need some.

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Yeah, I feel like she'll get there quickly, though.

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She's a smart lady. So she's been a little

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busy changing the music industry to know everything about

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football, but we'll get her there.

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That's awesome. That's really been a lot of fun

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to watch. So it's great to get that Kansas

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City take on. Know, you talked about your team.

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First of to I want to go back for

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a second to that pop up. I'm sure you

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collected a whole bunch of contact information. It all

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went in the CRM. And these are all people

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that you've identified as Swifty partners and you can

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target market them and all that great stuff, right?

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Absolutely. Yes. We have a tag in our database

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that is our Swifty email list. We've emailed them

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know, Taylor buys real estate. She's famous for that.

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Hot girls buy real estate was the headline of

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one of our emails. So we're having so much

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fun with it. I want to say we collected

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almost 400 contacts, emails, phone numbers and mailing addresses.

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So it was awesome and love getting to market

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in a way that, again, feels really natural and

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organic to me because this is what me and

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my friends are talking about on the daily anyways.

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That's so cool. That's great. What's next on the

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marketing horizon for you? What are you thinking? Know,

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you can't just stay static. You got to keep

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moving.

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Well, this past weekend was probably the biggest one

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of my career. I was so honored to be

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named the best real estate agent in Kansas City

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by the pitch magazine. It was a reader. Yes.

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Yes. Awesome.

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Congratulations. That's cool.

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Thank you so much. So in celebration of that,

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we put up a billboard in the crossroads, which

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is kind of this trendy neighborhood in Kansas City

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and we're encouraging people to go out in front

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of. The billboard, take a selfie in front of

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it and tag me in it. Then we've partnered

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with a local helicopter tour company. We're going to

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pick a winner of people that have tagged us

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in selfies and they get to go up in

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the helicopter and fly over the Christmas lights over

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the plaza because of all of this. So we're

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just blowing it out. We're having a lot of

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fun with it. We just launched those e courses

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as well. So we have a social media one,

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we have a marketing in Real life one, and

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then two shorter ones that are working with sellers

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and working with Buyers 101 for newbie agents to

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kind of jump start their careers. So we're going

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pedal to the metal. It's a lot of fun.

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Yeah. There's so much going on there. And this

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is in three years. You know, that's not normal.

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You know, that's unique.

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I do. In fact, it's kind of hard to

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recruit agents to my team because I always want

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to set realistic expectations for them. Like, I'm not

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expecting you to be me in three years. I

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was a product of luck, timing, privilege, opportunity. I

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know that you can't duplicate me, you have to

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be the best version of yourself. But I'm very

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grateful to be where I am and very self

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aware that it's not like I've cracked some code

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that other people can't crack. I just have had

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great timing and circumstances work out for me.

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And you missed the fifth one. You work hard.

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Yeah. That's a big piece of it, right? Don't

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discount that. That's cool.

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Yeah.

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Well, this has been great. I'm going to ask

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you the same final question I've asked 300 and

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nearly 70 guests, right. Just to get your response,

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especially for someone who's just come through this. What

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one piece of advice do you have for a

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new agent that's just getting started?

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I think it's join a team. I cannot imagine

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starting as an individual agent with nothing and building

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a business like I have without my mentors and

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my team. I think joining a team is the

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quickest way to, like I said, shorten that learning

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curve and a shortcut to having full information, knowledge

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on hand. And I think joining in my opinion,

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I'm biased because I'm on a small team and

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one of the leaders of a small team. Now,

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I think a smaller team is the best because

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you want to be in a circumstance where you

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have one on one mentorship, you have someone you

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can pick up and call anytime about any question

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and that is invested in your success. So I

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think joining a team is the best thing I

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ever did for my career and I would encourage

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every new agent to at least consider it. And

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even if you only do it for a year

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or two just to get started, it's really critical

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in getting off to success at a faster rate.

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Let me ask you one quick question about that.

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You're okay then. If somebody joins your team and

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two years down the road, they've had good success

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and they've really done well with you, and they

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come to you and they go, rachel, I think

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it's time for me to move on. I want

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to do my own thing with the team. You're

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good with that, right?

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I'm okay with that. I don't think they're going

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to because I think they're going to see that

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working with a team is amazing in so many

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ways. Just like the camaraderie and the marketing that

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we provide. We have an operations manager that does

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paperwork for them, does the marketing for them. So

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if they want to go, I'm like, have at

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it. If you think you can go duplicate all

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of this, then I will literally be cheering you

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on because it has been blood, sweat and tears

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for me for three years to pull this off

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and then decades for my team leads before I

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came along. So I'm okay with it. If they

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can do it, great. But I think the ODS

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of them being able to duplicate that are pretty

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low because like I said, I've just had a

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lot of things break my way that have nothing

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to do with skills or anything that have worked

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out. And so hopefully our team members benefit from

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that and their businesses thrive with us and they

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want to stay with us forever. But if not,

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I will cheer them on.

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Awesome. What's the best way to get in touch

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with you?

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Social media, probably. I'm all over the Internet, Rachel.

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Realtor KC TikTok Instagram, Facebook. My website is WW

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rachtheraltorcasey.com. Hit me up. Love to chat with anyone.

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Send referrals to Kansas City and I'll send them

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back your way.

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This has been amazing. I love your energy. I

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love what you're doing. It's going to be really

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fun to watch what you're doing and growing. I

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can't imagine what your team is going to look

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like in ten years. It's going to be fantastic.

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So continued success. Thank you so much for your

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time today. Really appreciate it.

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Thank you. Been a blast. Really appreciate you having

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me and thanks for the time.

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