Real Estate Sessions Rewind - March 6, 2018 Episode 131 - Chelsea Peitz - Author, Speaker, Coach

Navigating Real Estate with Authenticity: Insights from Chelsea Peitz
Chelsea Peitz emphasizes the transformative power of video communication in today's digital landscape, highlighting that consumers are increasingly expecting to see people on video to establish connections. With a background in clinical psychology, Chelsea shares her journey from aspiring therapist to a leading voice in real estate marketing and personal branding. She reflects on the evolution of social media and how platforms like Snapchat have influenced real-time communication, paving the way for a more authentic online presence. Throughout the conversation, she encourages new agents to define their unique value propositions and embrace personal branding as a cornerstone of their success. Chelsea's insights on the importance of sharing one's story resonate deeply, as she advocates for genuine connections in an increasingly digital world.
Chelsea Peitz offers profound insights into the evolving landscape of real estate marketing, highlighting how video and social media have become indispensable tools for agents. The dialogue centers around the idea that consumer behavior is being conditioned for immediate engagement and visual stimulation, similar to the convenience provided by platforms like Amazon. Chelsea predicts that in the near future, not having a video presence will be met with skepticism, paralleling contemporary reactions to individuals without social media accounts. This perspective underscores the significance of adapting to digital communication channels in order to meet client expectations and foster deeper connections.
Throughout the conversation, Chelsea shares her unique journey from her early aspirations in clinical psychology to becoming a prominent figure in real estate marketing. Her experiences navigating economic downturns shaped her understanding of the industry's challenges, driving her to embrace digital marketing strategies. By focusing on personal branding, Chelsea emphasizes the importance of identifying and articulating a unique value proposition that resonates with potential clients. She encourages agents to share their stories and experiences, fostering a sense of authenticity that can differentiate them in a competitive market.
Moreover, the episode sheds light on Chelsea’s involvement in the Snap Pack, a community of supportive peers that has significantly influenced her professional growth. The collaboration within this group exemplifies the power of networking and mentorship in the digital age. As Chelsea looks ahead to launching her educational programs with Jason Frazier, she aims to provide agents with comprehensive resources that cover various aspects of digital marketing. By instilling confidence and offering practical tools, Chelsea is determined to empower real estate professionals to thrive in today’s fast-paced, visually-driven marketplace. This episode is a treasure trove of insights for anyone looking to leverage video and social media effectively in their real estate business.
Takeaways:
- Chelsea Peitz emphasizes the importance of using video to communicate effectively in today's digital landscape.
- Consumer behavior is evolving, and people are increasingly expecting to see videos about others online.
- The shift from traditional marketing to digital platforms is essential for real estate professionals.
- Personal branding is crucial for success; understanding your unique value proposition helps attract the right clients.
- The rise of social media has changed how we connect and communicate in the business world.
- Chelsea encourages individuals to embrace vulnerability and authenticity when building their online presence.
Links referenced in this episode:
00:00 - None
00:08 - The Evolution of Consumer Behavior
04:14 - Chelsea's Journey from California to Arizona
11:57 - Facing Adversity: A Second Setback
17:21 - The Rise of Social Media in Real Estate Marketing
22:11 - The Evolution of Communication Platforms
28:26 - Launching a New Initiative in Real Estate Education
We use the camera in a different way and it's to communicate.
Chelsea
And that's, I believe, what consumer behavior is being trained for right now.
Chelsea
Just like we've all been trained for Amazon, you know, all of us want it quick.
Chelsea
We want to push a button and that's what we want.
Chelsea
And just like cameras, people are going to start expecting to see people on video.
Chelsea
And I would imagine in a few years if people can't find videos about you, they're going to start wondering why not on almost like we do now with, oh, you don't have a Facebook account.
Chelsea
That's weird.
Bill Risser
You're listening to the Real Estate Sessions and I'm your host, Bill risser.
Bill Risser
With nearly 25 years in the real estate business, I love to interview industry leaders, up and comers and really anyone with a story to tell.
Bill Risser
It's the stories that led my guests to a career in the real estate world that drives me into my ninth year and nearly 400 episodes of the podcast.
Bill Risser
And now I hope you enjoy the next journey.
Host
Hi everybody.
Host
Welcome back to the Real Estate Sessions podcast for episode 131, we're moving along.
Host
We're headed towards three years this summer.
Host
It's exciting and thank you for joining us and for telling a friend.
Host
It's how we continue to grow.
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I really appreciate it.
Host
I can't tell you how excited I am for today's guest.
Host
I get to go back to Arizona with somebody that I've known for quite a while.
Host
And a lot of people that listen to this podcast know this guest too.
Host
It's Chelsea Peitz.
Host
Chelsea.
Host
I knew Chelsea when she was a fidelity national title.
Host
She's now kind of going out doing some things on her own.
Host
She's evolved through this world of video and social media and we're going to talk a lot about that.
Host
Chelsea, welcome to the podcast.
Chelsea
Oh, thank you so much for having me, Bill.
Chelsea
I'm a fan of the podcast and a fan of you and I'm just excited.
Chelsea
I feel like I'm talking to one of my old friends.
Host
Excellent.
Host
These are really easy interviews.
Host
This will be fun.
Host
So, yeah.
Host
So I know you've been in Arizona, Scottsdale a long time.
Host
Are you one of those rare native Arizonans that I've heard about?
Chelsea
I am not a native.
Chelsea
Which, you know, living in Arizona, who is these days?
Chelsea
Right?
Chelsea
No, I actually grew up in Southern California.
Chelsea
So I spent my, my youth in the, in the desert in another desert in the Palm Springs.
Chelsea
Palm Desert area.
Chelsea
So not too far off temperature wise from Phoenix.
Host
My first Thought when you say Palm Springs is this.
Host
I.
Host
I played a lot of golf up there because I grew up in San Diego.
Host
We would make trips up to Palm Springs to play golf.
Host
But I always thought of it more as like a retirement community.
Host
So what was it like being a youngster in Palm Springs?
Chelsea
It was like being a youngster in a retirement community.
Host
Now I get it.
Chelsea
It was very different from what I'm told what it is now.
Chelsea
You see all these people kind of having their destinations.
Chelsea
Maybe it's a bridal shower or a wonderful little vacation that people are going to.
Chelsea
And it was kind of a small town back in the day, yet there were some people that were celebrities.
Chelsea
And there was a different style or type of celebrity era that would be living in the Palm Springs.
Chelsea
So you'd see a lot of, you know, kind of well known folks, lots of golf courses.
Chelsea
But it was.
Chelsea
It was pretty small.
Chelsea
And from what I'm told, I haven't really been back.
Chelsea
I kind of left and, and never looked back.
Chelsea
And I do need to make it back there one day.
Chelsea
It probably looks quite a bit different, but I hear it's a lovely place to visit now.
Host
Yeah, just.
Host
Just four short hours away across a major expanse of nothingness.
Host
It's.
Host
You're real close.
Chelsea
Yeah.
Chelsea
Well.
Chelsea
And then there's more nothingness around Palm Springs, except there's a lot of palm trees.
Chelsea
So you definitely know when you've entered and when you've exited.
Host
I was going to say the one thing I always think of Palm Springs is wind.
Host
You can get some serious wind blowing through that.
Host
That part of the desert.
Host
So that I'm sure those dust storms were a lot of fun.
Chelsea
Yeah.
Chelsea
Tumbleweeds.
Host
Yeah.
Host
There you go.
Host
There you go.
Host
So you come to Arizona.
Host
I know that I'm a fellow Sun Devil.
Host
You're a Sun Devil.
Host
So I always love seeing that you did your time at asu.
Host
And looking back at your history, your degree is in clinical psychology.
Host
So I'm just guessing that knowing how kind of wacky the real estate space can be, were you already preparing in advance for real estate or was something else on your radar?
Chelsea
You know, it's a funny story, you know, getting to Arizona, the reason that I transferred from California to Arizona was so that I could go to school here.
Chelsea
Funny story about that is I went to private Catholic school my whole life.
Chelsea
And Once you graduated 8th grade in Palm Springs, there really wasn't anywhere to go, so I actually was on track to become a nun.
Chelsea
Shocking, I know.
Chelsea
I know things you never knew about me, Bill.
Chelsea
And so the nuns at my school in Palm Springs were of the same order of nuns at a local high school here.
Chelsea
And so I moved out here to go to that high school, and I actually graduated early.
Chelsea
I went to ASU when I was, I think 16 or 17, graduated when I was 20.
Chelsea
So my experience at ASU was very different than most people's.
Chelsea
I didn't go out anywhere.
Chelsea
I didn't live on campus.
Chelsea
It was totally different, which I do actually regret.
Chelsea
So I kind of got out and started working.
Chelsea
But, you know, the funny thing about my degree is that I really wanted to be like those serial serial killer profilers, right?
Chelsea
I wanted to be one of those people that you see in the TV shows and the movies.
Chelsea
And then I started really realizing I was pretty sensitive.
Chelsea
And I thought, well, geez, I can't do that, because that's just.
Chelsea
I don't know if I could handle that kind of thing.
Chelsea
And then I thought, well, I'll be a therapist.
Chelsea
And then I realized it's probably not a good idea for a therapist to be crying in every session with their clients.
Chelsea
And I'm super sensitive.
Chelsea
So I didn't end up going into that profession, but it did serve me well in sales and marketing and understanding how to work with people and perspectives, trying to put myself in other people's shapes shoes.
Chelsea
So certainly it has come in handy.
Host
I'm just going to guess Xavier then, for high school.
Chelsea
Yes, Yes, I went to Xavier.
Chelsea
And if there's any Phoenix listeners, xcp, go Gators.
Chelsea
You know, you know it.
Host
That's awesome.
Host
The Brophy Xavier connection.
Host
There are a lot of.
Host
There are a lot of people that I know that attended one of those two schools, you know, the boys or the girls?
Chelsea
Well, let me tell you, our son is five years old, that is not even in kindergarten, and we are getting him on a list to go to Brophy.
Chelsea
Like, that's how serious.
Chelsea
Like, the people who went there, I mean, you got to get on.
Chelsea
You got to get in early.
Chelsea
So, yeah, it's pretty awesome.
Chelsea
I loved high school.
Chelsea
It was a great experience.
Chelsea
And people who are here, local, they know what a great opportunity it is to be able to go to an incredible school.
Chelsea
And now there's a few more out here that didn't exist back in the old days when I went.
Chelsea
But it's, you know, it's.
Chelsea
It's awesome to be able to have had parents that, you know, really thought about how can we provide this type of education for our kids.
Chelsea
So that was awesome.
Host
So you graduated from asu.
Host
What'd you do right away?
Host
What was your first job out of school?
Host
Now you're only 20.
Chelsea
I was working while I went to college, so I had an apartment and I was working, and I happened to be working in the fitness industry.
Chelsea
There was a big gym right across from campus, and so I was doing personal training and working there at the gym.
Chelsea
And so I thought, oh, my gosh, I want to work.
Chelsea
I want to have a job.
Chelsea
I think a lot of people out of college, at least when I graduated, were like, oh, so excited to be working.
Chelsea
And now I'm thinking, man, I should have spent more time in school because I'm going to be working for the rest of my life.
Chelsea
But I was working in a gym, and that gym actually was going under, and I got another job as operations and administration at a gym, and that's where I ended up meeting Brian, my husband.
Host
Right.
Host
So Brian.
Host
Brian Peitz, who will soon be a guest on the podcast as well, I'm sure.
Host
He.
Host
He is with Chicago Title in Phoenix.
Host
You were at.
Host
When I met, you were working with the sister company Fidelity National Title in Phoenix.
Host
And.
Host
And so you met.
Host
And obviously you're both very much into fitness.
Host
It's obvious that anyone that's met you knows that, and that's how you meet.
Host
Was he already in the real estate industry at this time?
Chelsea
No.
Chelsea
So our story is very interesting.
Chelsea
We have actually worked either together in the same company or industry our entire history of knowing each other.
Chelsea
So we've always worked in the same industry or we've been in actually the same company.
Chelsea
And so when I met Brian, he was the weekend sales manager, and I was doing all of the admin and the operations and the accounting, and that was at the gym.
Chelsea
So we met at the gym, and we actually went out of state.
Chelsea
State.
Chelsea
We were.
Chelsea
We were.
Chelsea
We got jobs as fixers, people who would take bankrupt gyms and go and fix them and build them up and, you know, hire staff, and it was really great.
Chelsea
We were in our young 20s.
Chelsea
We didn't know anything.
Chelsea
We didn't know any better.
Chelsea
And it was amazing.
Chelsea
And we learned a big lesson because we moved everything out of state.
Chelsea
And the person that I trusted, that was a mentor of mine, ended up embezzling all the money.
Chelsea
And I found out about it, and he took five people's salaries for an entire year, all their mortgage payments, and we had nothing.
Chelsea
So I literally opened the doors of the rented house that we couldn't afford because we didn't have any money.
Chelsea
And sold everything.
Chelsea
And to this day, I still remember selling my KitchenAid mixer.
Chelsea
Any woman who has ever had a KitchenAid mixer literally just grasped their.
Chelsea
Like, clutched their chest and went, I sold it for $50.
Chelsea
Oh, my gosh, it was awful.
Chelsea
And I refused to buy one again.
Chelsea
I mean, because it's such a symbol of that time when we lost everything.
Chelsea
Now we were super young, so we came back to Arizona and moved in with Brian's mom in a really small house.
Chelsea
And we didn't know what we were going to do.
Chelsea
And Brian thought, well, I'll just get my real estate license while we're figuring it out.
Chelsea
And I said, okay, I'll get mine, too.
Chelsea
We never planned to go into real estate.
Chelsea
And Here we are 16 years later in that same industry.
Host
Did you and Brian together then hang your license with Arizona Best right away?
Host
Is that where you started your.
Chelsea
No, we actually sent resumes to every single new home builder in the state of Arizona.
Chelsea
And I got one interview, and he got one interview, and we both landed those jobs.
Chelsea
And he ended up working for KB Home and ended up being a regional sales manager for them.
Chelsea
I worked for.
Chelsea
At the time, it was Continental homes.
Chelsea
Now it's Dr.
Chelsea
Horton.
Chelsea
And so we both worked again, Same industry, but different companies.
Chelsea
And then I went into residential resale and did that for quite a long time.
Chelsea
Brian opened up a business, and then he went into residential resale.
Chelsea
So never at the same place at the same time.
Chelsea
But, yeah, we were both.
Chelsea
We were both licensed agents for a number of years.
Host
And that's right in the heyday of the.
Host
This is back when there were lotteries to get lots right in the new building.
Chelsea
Oh, my gosh.
Chelsea
I think my record in one day was 13 contracts.
Chelsea
Wow.
Chelsea
Yeah, it was crazy here.
Host
Yeah.
Host
Yeah.
Host
I think for.
Host
For people that are around the country, you know, Phoenix.
Host
And there were other places just like Phoenix.
Host
Vegas comes to mind, you know, quickly.
Host
But, yeah, it was you.
Host
People would line up for days just to get their name on a list to hopefully be chosen for, like, the three.
Host
Three lots that were released that day, you know, so they.
Chelsea
Exactly.
Chelsea
Yeah.
Chelsea
It was very, very, very out of the ordinary.
Chelsea
And it was not a good thing.
Chelsea
I mean, obviously, by the big burst, it was really terrible.
Host
Yeah, we found out.
Host
So you.
Host
Eventually both Brian and you end up heading into, we'll call it, the corporate world.
Host
Right.
Host
When I say that, I mean, you know, a Fortune 500 company with, you know, the Fidelity National Financial family.
Host
So let's talk about that decision.
Host
How did we get to this point.
Host
And I think at this point, is Mason in the scene?
Host
Maybe not quite.
Host
He's close.
Chelsea
No, no.
Chelsea
Yeah, He.
Chelsea
He wasn't.
Chelsea
He wasn't here yet.
Chelsea
I, as a residential real estate agent who, you know, had gone through really great years, I started to go through the really bad years, and again, Brian and I lost everything a second time.
Chelsea
We lost our personal residences, we lost our investment properties.
Chelsea
We were both in the real estate world at a time when everything came crashing down.
Chelsea
And so for the second time in our lives, we moved in with Brian's mom.
Chelsea
And.
Chelsea
Yeah.
Chelsea
So I said, gosh, I don't really think that I can go to work every day and sit across kitchen tables with families who are losing their home and crying, and it's just so devastating.
Chelsea
And that's what it was like for us.
Chelsea
And even Florida and Vegas, I mean, families were losing their homes every single day, and it was really, really depressing.
Chelsea
And so I ended up going on an interview with Fidelity, and honestly, I don't even remember how I ended up there.
Chelsea
And I got the opportunity to become their marketing director, and it was amazing.
Chelsea
It's probably the best thing that I.
Chelsea
Best decision I ever made.
Chelsea
And it really helped me learn so much.
Chelsea
And I still got to work in the industry that I love so much with, with real estate agents and doing that.
Chelsea
So it was perfect.
Host
This is around 2010, right?
Chelsea
Yes.
Host
So social media exploded for us.
Host
Maybe we'll call it 08.
Host
So as an agent, you were already probably playing with those tools.
Host
Kind of understood a little bit about it.
Host
But in your new role with Fidelity, what was that?
Host
Was there like an aha moment where you're like, wow, this is really important stuff, or did you have to focus more on the more traditional marketing stuff?
Host
I'm always curious about people that were.
Host
That.
Host
That transition where we went from postcards to posts.
Chelsea
Right, right.
Chelsea
Well, you know, I think our particular industry of real estate in many cases is a few years behind some other industries.
Chelsea
And that's.
Chelsea
I think that you'd probably agree with that.
Chelsea
I don't think it's.
Chelsea
It's per se regional.
Chelsea
I just think it's maybe the nature of our.
Chelsea
Of our industry and some others.
Chelsea
So I still think that really this sort of like renaissance awakening of people realizing, hey, I need to go digital, I need to be on social media, really didn't even happen probably until, I would say, 2013, 2015.
Chelsea
And when you're working for a corporate company, there's a lot of levels and layers and really creating beta tests and pilot programs to say, hey, this is what's working.
Chelsea
Let's try this.
Chelsea
So I would say we focused a lot more on some of the traditional methods, and then at the latter half of my tenure with them, it became much more focused on the digital presence piece and building your brand through social media.
Host
You've really built a personal brand that's been super fun to watch grow over the years.
Host
And I really love the fact that you're so open and honest about your life.
Host
And I know that that's something you, you know, you would encourage others to do, but there's a lot of people that struggle with that.
Host
You've heard it a million times.
Host
I know you have, like, oh, I'm just too private, or, oh, I can never do what you do.
Host
What do you say to those people when you're having that conversation with somebody that, you know, needs to be, you know, really kind of sharing that kind of stuff?
Host
How do you.
Host
How do you convince them?
Chelsea
Well, there's.
Chelsea
There's two ways I go about it.
Chelsea
One, I'm very honest about.
Chelsea
You know, you hear this marketing speak about being authentic and telling a story.
Chelsea
You know what, it's really hard to start doing that if you've never done it before.
Chelsea
So that's kind of the one piece of it is, is the practice and consistency.
Chelsea
And as you do more of it, you become more relaxed, you become more who you are.
Chelsea
But you're not going to turn on the camera or look at your phone and be exactly who you are for the majority of us.
Chelsea
So that's one piece of it.
Chelsea
The other piece is that, you know, people tell me all the time I couldn't do what you do.
Chelsea
I have a boring life.
Chelsea
I hate being in front of the camera.
Chelsea
I hate my voice.
Chelsea
Well, so did I.
Chelsea
I didn't watch anything back for an entire year, which, frankly, I could have gotten a lot better a lot quicker.
Chelsea
But I also knew myself, and I knew that I would stop if I watched myself back.
Chelsea
So that's.
Chelsea
It's.
Chelsea
It's a.
Chelsea
It's a very normal fear.
Chelsea
You know, we're always the people that look at ourselves and pick ourselves apart.
Chelsea
The other thing is that when you're.
Chelsea
When you're on camera or you're sharing your life, you don't have to share everything.
Chelsea
I've really opened up a lot of my life, but there are certainly pieces of it that I don't share, and that's a completely personal decision.
Chelsea
You may not want to share your kids, you may not want to Share certain moments.
Chelsea
And of course I believe that there's a lot of oversharing that happens.
Chelsea
I don't need to see everything that someone's doing in their life.
Chelsea
But like someone said to me in 2007, they said, are you going to go buy one of those new iPhones?
Chelsea
And I laughed and looked them in the face and said, why?
Chelsea
My flip phone makes great calls.
Chelsea
And now I can't imagine my life without an iPhone.
Chelsea
So I think it's more of a mindset shift that we have to remember.
Chelsea
We didn't have Amazon a few years ago, we didn't have iPhones 10 years ago, but that doesn't mean that we haven't had shifts.
Chelsea
And now it's very commonplace.
Chelsea
Just like being on the camera and communicating screen to screen is going to become, in my opinion, commonplace.
Host
I, I can't interview you without talking about Snapchat and the Snap Pack.
Host
I think that now, you know, Jason's been on the show and Dustin's been on the show.
Host
I got to get Bucky on here.
Host
And you know who else?
Host
Neil Shannon.
Host
So talk about how important that has been in, in kind of where your path has gone.
Host
How, how.
Host
Just kind of how that started things rolling.
Chelsea
Yeah, so the Snap Pack started out as five people on Snapchat talking and we ended up talking so much that we one day decided to meet.
Chelsea
And yes, that sounds weird.
Chelsea
I still think that's weird.
Chelsea
I am an almost 40 year old woman who did not grow up with social media.
Chelsea
My son will not think it's weird, but I think it's totally bizarre and a little unsafe to think, hey, I'm gonna go travel and meet some people that I'd never met before except on Snapchat.
Chelsea
But you know, we're kind of in a different world now and you know, you get to know people in just different ways.
Chelsea
And so we decided that we were gonna start doing a lot of things together.
Chelsea
And quite frankly, it, it grew on its own.
Chelsea
This group, this Facebook group, and then we had some conferences where we all came together and we shared everything with each other and we just thought, you know, we're tired of going to conferences that don't give the actual goods or, you know, oh, you got to sign up and pay for this and then you can find out how to do it.
Chelsea
We're just practitioners, like actually doing it and we're sharing everything we learn.
Chelsea
And you know, another thing that was really great is they became my, not only my friends and family, but they came my cheerleaders, you Know when I said, hey, I think I want to write a book, they're like, yes, do it.
Chelsea
Stay on track.
Chelsea
Don't give up.
Chelsea
When I told them, hey, I'm thinking about launching my own company, they're like, brilliant, do it.
Chelsea
You have to.
Chelsea
And I call them all the time and I'm like, just, I feel like giving up.
Chelsea
I don't know what I'm doing.
Chelsea
I had, I had the day yesterday and they became really my, my community of support.
Host
Let's, let's talk about the book.
Host
It was last year, maybe a year and a half ago in my.
Chelsea
Yeah, last year, last year.
Chelsea
Announced it in February.
Chelsea
I said, last February, I'm going to write a book.
Host
Yeah, that's right.
Host
You, you made a, you, you put it out there for accountability.
Host
Was like thousands of people.
Chelsea
Yes.
Host
So you wrote a book called Talking in Pictures.
Host
And, and you have been promoting for a few years now this camera first vision.
Host
Right.
Host
And, and I think the book was kind of through the Snapchat lens, but now with the way Facebook and Instagram Live have just kind of exploded on the scene, you're really just talking about picking up that phone and looking at it and using that to, to build relationships.
Chelsea
Right, exactly.
Chelsea
The book isn't as much about using Snapchat.
Chelsea
I mean, there is a lot of that in there.
Chelsea
But it's really about how Snapchat was this catalyst.
Chelsea
It was the first time we ever had this real time visual communication that was with us all the time.
Chelsea
And it was different than the other platforms because people were just being real because it was more private and, you know, behaviors got trained and people started to accept the non edited, you know, not the amazing YouTube with the intros and the outros.
Chelsea
It was just people talking.
Chelsea
And it was kind of like this new version of reality tv, when reality TV was actually real.
Chelsea
And the cool part about it was that not only could I watch this reality tv, I can actually talk to the people while they were telling their story.
Chelsea
And so that's why Snapchat was so important.
Chelsea
It could go away tomorrow.
Chelsea
The important part of it is that now we, we use the camera in a different way and it's to communicate.
Chelsea
And that's, I believe, what consumer behavior is being trained for right now.
Chelsea
Just like we've all been trained for Amazon.
Chelsea
You know, all of us want it quick.
Chelsea
We want to push a button and that's what we want.
Chelsea
And just like cameras, people are going to start expecting to see people on video.
Chelsea
And I would imagine in a few years if people can't find videos about you, they're going to start wondering, why not?
Chelsea
Almost like we do now with, oh, you don't have a Facebook account.
Chelsea
That's weird.
Chelsea
You know, we didn't think that 10 years ago it wasn't that weird.
Chelsea
But now we wonder, well, what are they hiding?
Chelsea
Is there something wrong?
Chelsea
Like, what's wrong with them?
Chelsea
They're not on social media.
Chelsea
Right.
Chelsea
Which is kind of an odd thing for people in our generation to wrap their head around, because we didn't grow up with that.
Chelsea
So it really is more about the camera in general and how we're communicating with one another through it than specifically Snapchat.
Chelsea
But it is thanks to Snapchat that we have Facebook Live and Instagram stories, which I love, by the way, both of those things.
Host
And it seems like Snapchat's going through a little bit of a change.
Host
I know you've been keeping everybody up to date on those, the recent changes.
Host
I love the phrase used discoverability, right, that Snapchat's not going to be as private as it used to be.
Host
Is that a safe thing to say?
Chelsea
It is, yeah.
Chelsea
They're.
Chelsea
They're, you know, they have to improve a little bit.
Chelsea
You know, they.
Chelsea
They're public now, so they've got to turn a profit.
Chelsea
So there is sort of that discoverability factor there.
Chelsea
But I think what people forget is that not all platforms are created equal, and that goes for anything.
Chelsea
Twitter, YouTube, they're all different.
Chelsea
And Snapchat was never trying to be a Facebook or an Instagram.
Chelsea
It just got lumped in there because people didn't know where else to put it.
Chelsea
And it's really more about communication.
Chelsea
It's more of a visual messaging app.
Chelsea
So, you know, it's funny because people say, gosh, I can't believe they made this algorithm change and now they took away my feed.
Chelsea
Well, remember, Snapchat was never about a feed of, like, scrolling through stuff.
Chelsea
It was about intention.
Chelsea
It was about, I want to go see Bill's story and see what's happening.
Chelsea
I'm going to go and physically tap on his story and watch it.
Chelsea
I'm not going to just open up my app and have it turn on automatically.
Chelsea
So it's just funny to me that.
Chelsea
And yes, as a user, I don't love the new interface, personally.
Chelsea
I mean, I'm not saying that I love it, but I do remember what their original goal is, and I applaud them for kind of bucking the trend and saying, this is what our values are.
Chelsea
This is what Our goal is.
Chelsea
And that's why we're making this change.
Chelsea
Because a lot of companies don't do that.
Chelsea
And they're not looking so good right now.
Chelsea
I mean, they've had a lot of challenges.
Chelsea
So I gotta give my, you know, to tip my hat to them for at least sticking with that.
Host
I tried to explain it this way to a lot of people now my age.
Host
Right.
Host
I'm a.
Host
I'm gonna proudly say late boomer, because that means I'm not an early boomer.
Host
But as a late boomer and talking to people my age about Snapchat, they would just, you know, roll their eyes, you know.
Host
You know, the.
Chelsea
I get that all the time.
Host
And I would say, you know, but I'm gonna tell you this about Snapchat.
Host
It's the closest thing online anywhere to a real conversation between two people.
Host
Because I challenge them.
Host
I say, we've been talking here for 20 minutes.
Host
What did I say 15 minutes ago?
Host
They don't know.
Chelsea
Right.
Host
You know, because they all, they like to freak out because it disappears.
Host
It goes away.
Host
And.
Host
And I said, just like a real conversation, things disappear and go away.
Host
We don't, you know, memorialize everything we say all the time.
Host
I think texting kind of conditioned us to be that way, especially in the real estate industry.
Host
Right.
Host
Because you could go back and check out the history.
Host
But you're right, it's a conversation tool, but just done visually, right?
Chelsea
Exactly.
Chelsea
And something I always.
Chelsea
People ask, well, how do I grow?
Chelsea
How do I grow?
Chelsea
And I'm like, no, you're missing the point.
Chelsea
If I was in front of 150 people every single day, I mean, 150 is not that many.
Chelsea
Right?
Chelsea
But they were listening and talking and having conversations.
Chelsea
And you're having meetings with those people every day.
Chelsea
I mean, imagine what you could do with those 150 people versus 15,000 people that you drive VI on the freeway, right?
Chelsea
It's just, to me, it's like I'd rather have.
Chelsea
And we talk about real estate.
Chelsea
You talk about that sphere, your best clients, your repeat.
Chelsea
They send you repeat and referral business.
Chelsea
It's the concept of that within Snapchat.
Chelsea
And let me tell you, it is moving that way to every platform.
Chelsea
It's.
Chelsea
I'm so excited that things are going to be less hackable, less growth oriented and more real.
Chelsea
Like, let's have a real conversation.
Host
I saw you speak in January at the Inman Connect event.
Host
You were on the TechConnect stage, if I remember right, Agent Connect or TechConnect talking about social and a lot of the things you talk about, you killed it on stage.
Host
Tons of great comments.
Host
Brad Inman was, was made aware of it and he's talking about you.
Host
I just.
Host
Well, first of all, congratulations on such a great presentation.
Host
It's going to.
Host
You'll be doing a lot more things with them.
Host
You're also a contributor within.
Host
Talk about how important, you know, that whole Inman community has been for you.
Chelsea
Oh, yes.
Chelsea
I mean, how many, I can't even say how many great things about the Inman community and Brad Inman.
Chelsea
I have been a fan girl of his from afar that he didn't even know about.
Chelsea
But yes, Inman is so great for a variety of reasons.
Chelsea
One, it's a resource.
Chelsea
They're a thought leader which all of us want to become in our own brand.
Chelsea
So they're such an iconic brand in our industry.
Chelsea
They're cutting edge, they're on top of everything.
Chelsea
And I love that they bring in new blood.
Chelsea
It's not the same conference every year.
Chelsea
In fact, they do two conferences a year and it's different every single time.
Chelsea
Even if you're going from the New York conference to the San Francisco conference, it's very different.
Chelsea
And the networking is beyond phenomenal.
Chelsea
And I think every real estate tech company ever started there.
Chelsea
I mean, didn't Zillow start there in their startup alley?
Host
Yeah, they were there happy thinking of the people.
Host
Startup alley.
Chelsea
Yeah, it's very, yeah, they, they really launched jobs and careers by, by bringing people together that, you know, hey, I've got a great product and then there are the right people in the room that are looking and now we've, you know, got exposure and then we explode.
Chelsea
So it's really, it's a phenomenal conference.
Chelsea
Not just saying that because I, because I speak there and write for them, but it's one of my favorite things to do every year.
Chelsea
I'd never gone to the New York version of it.
Chelsea
This was my first time, which was so fun and very different from the San Francisco version.
Chelsea
And I'm super excited to be going this summer to the San Francisco Inman Connect as well.
Chelsea
But I mean, you've had the experience with them.
Chelsea
I'm sure that I have, where everybody is just passionate and excited and the buzz at the event, even, especially in the expo hall is just really, bar none.
Host
Yeah, I agree.
Host
It's a powerful place to make really wonderful connections, relationships that for me have lasted since, I mean, I think my first event was in 2010 and there are still people to this day that I'm very close friends with that I met at Emman.
Host
So I love it.
Host
I know you and Jason are cooking something up.
Chelsea
We are, yeah.
Host
Tell me what you're doing there.
Host
And this is Jason Frazier.
Host
We should introduce Jason so people remember.
Chelsea
Yes, Jason Frazier, AKA the real estate cio.
Chelsea
We have been cooking up a little secret project for a while.
Chelsea
We've been teasing it out a little, little bit.
Chelsea
But, you know, Jason and I are really passionate about education and we get asked all the time, where can I find more of your content?
Chelsea
How do you do this?
Chelsea
And I thought, well, why don't we take everything that we're already creating content on YouTube and Facebook Live and Snapchat and Instagram stories and put it in a place where people can access it.
Chelsea
So we're going to be launching some really out of the box unique training style of programs that are going to be, I think what makes us different is a few things.
Chelsea
One, it's, it's going to be in a format that everybody can learn from, whether you like to learn visually, you like to hear it or you like to read it.
Chelsea
Right.
Chelsea
So there's going to be, it's going to hit everyone and it's also going to be not just one thing.
Chelsea
It's not going to be basic or it's not going to be advanced.
Chelsea
It's literally going to run the gamut.
Chelsea
And I'm the kind of person my brain doesn't process like everyone else.
Chelsea
I really need to know.
Chelsea
Break this down for me in a step by step process.
Chelsea
I want pictures, I want descriptions, I want to know all the details.
Chelsea
Now, some people don't.
Chelsea
They just want the video with the overview.
Chelsea
Well, that's great.
Chelsea
They can do that.
Chelsea
But if somebody wants just a high level overview or somebody wants to really drill down into it, we've got it all.
Chelsea
And we're going to cover a variety of topics from chat bots and how to use those in your messenger, for your Facebook page, to Snapchat, Instagram, Basically anything you could think of that would fall under digital marketing, branding, paid social ads and even customer experience, consumer experience, and what that looks like in a 2018 digital world.
Host
That'll be fun to watch for.
Host
I can't wait.
Host
I've had you more than the half hour I asked of you, so I'm going to ask you the same question I've asked everybody on the podcast.
Host
You probably know it's coming.
Host
Give me that one piece of advice you'd give a new agent.
Host
Just getting started in the Business.
Chelsea
Oh, gosh.
Chelsea
Distilling that down into one piece, I would say for me, I think personal branding is first and foremost.
Chelsea
I think once you know what you are passionate about and kind of what I call your core message, your unique value proposition, whatever it may be, and it's gotta be something legit, it can't be like, I give excellent service, right?
Chelsea
So one of the things you hear me say over and over again in my show is that I provide marketing tips, tools and strategies that help people grow their business and make more money doing what they love.
Chelsea
I think everybody has to have their own tagline and not just have a tagline, but believe it and share it and live it every single day because that becomes your personal brand.
Chelsea
And so whatever you decide to do, whether it's online, lead gen, social media, traditional marketing, door knocking, postcards, if you are clear on that brand and you are communicating that, then everybody else will be lining up to you know that you're going to attract the right kind of person and they're going to know what you're all about.
Chelsea
So that's probably one of the harder things to do as a new agent.
Chelsea
But I think if you can nail that, everything else gets really easy.
Host
So I actually understood the Chels chat intro for the first time.
Host
That was awesome.
Chelsea
Do you want to hear the story about why it's so quick?
Chelsea
Okay, so intro that you're talking about is back in the old days of Snapchat.
Chelsea
You had 10 seconds and I had this intro because I'm thinking broadcaster.
Chelsea
And that was what I knew at the time.
Chelsea
And so I thought, I'll have an intro.
Chelsea
And I had to start saying it really quickly.
Chelsea
And then people kept commenting, oh my gosh, you talk really quickly.
Chelsea
Are you like one of those auctioneers?
Chelsea
And it became kind of a funny thing.
Chelsea
And then I started doing it faster and faster and faster really, because I was just trying to get through it and some of it for comedic effect.
Chelsea
And people would message me and say, I have no idea what you're saying at all.
Chelsea
And it would be like, you know, the laughing emojis and all of that.
Chelsea
And then it became a weird contest around the world where people from all over the world would try to repeat what I was saying and send me those videos.
Chelsea
And so it's kind of just become a brand of its own.
Chelsea
I've tried to stop it and it's just, I feel like it just, it took on a life of its own.
Chelsea
But yes, so that I do have an intro that I say repeatedly and Let me tell you, people remember parts of it.
Chelsea
They remember brand build, do more of what you love.
Chelsea
And I'm excited that they remember that part because that is really what I want people to do, is to be empowered with tips, tools, and strategies that can really help save them time and money and then do more of whatever it is they love.
Chelsea
And so people do remember it.
Chelsea
And as silly as it is, like, like jingles on, you know, a radio ad, you remember those things.
Host
Yeah.
Host
Now, is it too awkward for you to just kind of let the audience hear exactly what it sounds like?
Chelsea
Let me see if I can remember it.
Chelsea
I think it goes something like, what's up, everyone?
Chelsea
It's Chelsea Chad Snapshot Real Estate Marketing Snappily Ever after, where I share marketing tips, tools and strategies with you that will help you grow your business and make more money doing what you love, but a lot faster.
Host
That's awesome.
Host
I love it.
Host
Chelsea, if someone wants to reach out to you, get in touch with you, or pick up a copy of Talking in Pictures, what are some of the places they can do all that?
Chelsea
They can definitely find me everywhere on social media with my first and last name.
Chelsea
So it's Chelsea Pite.
Chelsea
There's a dot usually between my first and last name and it's P E I T Z.
Chelsea
It's kind of an unusual last name, but Chelsea Pites is my are my handles on all my social media platforms.
Chelsea
They can actually go to talkinginpicturesbook.com talkinginpicturesbook.com to find out more information.
Chelsea
You can also find me through there.
Chelsea
And yeah, I'm on all social platforms.
Chelsea
I'd love to connect with everyone.
Host
Chelsea, thank you so much for your time and your stories.
Host
Amazing.
Host
It's exactly what I thought it would be, except I might use the none thing a little bit when I'm promoting this post.
Host
I hope that's okay.
Chelsea
Yes, absolutely.
Host
Thanks for all.
Host
Thanks for your time.
Host
I really appreciate it.
Chelsea
Thank you.
Bill Risser
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Bill Risser
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