Jan. 14, 2025

Real Estate Sessions Rewind - March 6, 2018 Episode 131 - Chelsea Peitz - Author, Speaker, Coach

Real Estate Sessions Rewind - March 6, 2018 Episode 131 - Chelsea Peitz - Author, Speaker, Coach

Navigating Real Estate with Authenticity: Insights from Chelsea Peitz

Chelsea Peitz emphasizes the transformative power of video communication in today's digital landscape, highlighting that consumers are increasingly expecting to see people on video to establish connections. With a background in clinical psychology, Chelsea shares her journey from aspiring therapist to a leading voice in real estate marketing and personal branding. She reflects on the evolution of social media and how platforms like Snapchat have influenced real-time communication, paving the way for a more authentic online presence. Throughout the conversation, she encourages new agents to define their unique value propositions and embrace personal branding as a cornerstone of their success. Chelsea's insights on the importance of sharing one's story resonate deeply, as she advocates for genuine connections in an increasingly digital world.


Chelsea Peitz offers profound insights into the evolving landscape of real estate marketing, highlighting how video and social media have become indispensable tools for agents. The dialogue centers around the idea that consumer behavior is being conditioned for immediate engagement and visual stimulation, similar to the convenience provided by platforms like Amazon. Chelsea predicts that in the near future, not having a video presence will be met with skepticism, paralleling contemporary reactions to individuals without social media accounts. This perspective underscores the significance of adapting to digital communication channels in order to meet client expectations and foster deeper connections.


Throughout the conversation, Chelsea shares her unique journey from her early aspirations in clinical psychology to becoming a prominent figure in real estate marketing. Her experiences navigating economic downturns shaped her understanding of the industry's challenges, driving her to embrace digital marketing strategies. By focusing on personal branding, Chelsea emphasizes the importance of identifying and articulating a unique value proposition that resonates with potential clients. She encourages agents to share their stories and experiences, fostering a sense of authenticity that can differentiate them in a competitive market.


Moreover, the episode sheds light on Chelsea’s involvement in the Snap Pack, a community of supportive peers that has significantly influenced her professional growth. The collaboration within this group exemplifies the power of networking and mentorship in the digital age. As Chelsea looks ahead to launching her educational programs with Jason Frazier, she aims to provide agents with comprehensive resources that cover various aspects of digital marketing. By instilling confidence and offering practical tools, Chelsea is determined to empower real estate professionals to thrive in today’s fast-paced, visually-driven marketplace. This episode is a treasure trove of insights for anyone looking to leverage video and social media effectively in their real estate business.

Takeaways:

  • Chelsea Peitz emphasizes the importance of using video to communicate effectively in today's digital landscape.
  • Consumer behavior is evolving, and people are increasingly expecting to see videos about others online.
  • The shift from traditional marketing to digital platforms is essential for real estate professionals.
  • Personal branding is crucial for success; understanding your unique value proposition helps attract the right clients.
  • The rise of social media has changed how we connect and communicate in the business world.
  • Chelsea encourages individuals to embrace vulnerability and authenticity when building their online presence.

Links referenced in this episode:


Chapters

00:00 - None

00:08 - The Evolution of Consumer Behavior

04:14 - Chelsea's Journey from California to Arizona

11:57 - Facing Adversity: A Second Setback

17:21 - The Rise of Social Media in Real Estate Marketing

22:11 - The Evolution of Communication Platforms

28:26 - Launching a New Initiative in Real Estate Education

Transcript
Chelsea

We use the camera in a different way and it's to communicate.


Chelsea

And that's, I believe, what consumer behavior is being trained for right now.


Chelsea

Just like we've all been trained for Amazon, you know, all of us want it quick.


Chelsea

We want to push a button and that's what we want.


Chelsea

And just like cameras, people are going to start expecting to see people on video.


Chelsea

And I would imagine in a few years if people can't find videos about you, they're going to start wondering why not on almost like we do now with, oh, you don't have a Facebook account.


Chelsea

That's weird.


Bill Risser

You're listening to the Real Estate Sessions and I'm your host, Bill risser.


Bill Risser

With nearly 25 years in the real estate business, I love to interview industry leaders, up and comers and really anyone with a story to tell.


Bill Risser

It's the stories that led my guests to a career in the real estate world that drives me into my ninth year and nearly 400 episodes of the podcast.


Bill Risser

And now I hope you enjoy the next journey.


Host

Hi everybody.


Host

Welcome back to the Real Estate Sessions podcast for episode 131, we're moving along.


Host

We're headed towards three years this summer.


Host

It's exciting and thank you for joining us and for telling a friend.


Host

It's how we continue to grow.


Host

I really appreciate it.


Host

I can't tell you how excited I am for today's guest.


Host

I get to go back to Arizona with somebody that I've known for quite a while.


Host

And a lot of people that listen to this podcast know this guest too.


Host

It's Chelsea Peitz.


Host

Chelsea.


Host

I knew Chelsea when she was a fidelity national title.


Host

She's now kind of going out doing some things on her own.


Host

She's evolved through this world of video and social media and we're going to talk a lot about that.


Host

Chelsea, welcome to the podcast.


Chelsea

Oh, thank you so much for having me, Bill.


Chelsea

I'm a fan of the podcast and a fan of you and I'm just excited.


Chelsea

I feel like I'm talking to one of my old friends.


Host

Excellent.


Host

These are really easy interviews.


Host

This will be fun.


Host

So, yeah.


Host

So I know you've been in Arizona, Scottsdale a long time.


Host

Are you one of those rare native Arizonans that I've heard about?


Chelsea

I am not a native.


Chelsea

Which, you know, living in Arizona, who is these days?


Chelsea

Right?


Chelsea

No, I actually grew up in Southern California.


Chelsea

So I spent my, my youth in the, in the desert in another desert in the Palm Springs.


Chelsea

Palm Desert area.


Chelsea

So not too far off temperature wise from Phoenix.


Host

My first Thought when you say Palm Springs is this.


Host

I.


Host

I played a lot of golf up there because I grew up in San Diego.


Host

We would make trips up to Palm Springs to play golf.


Host

But I always thought of it more as like a retirement community.


Host

So what was it like being a youngster in Palm Springs?


Chelsea

It was like being a youngster in a retirement community.


Host

Now I get it.


Chelsea

It was very different from what I'm told what it is now.


Chelsea

You see all these people kind of having their destinations.


Chelsea

Maybe it's a bridal shower or a wonderful little vacation that people are going to.


Chelsea

And it was kind of a small town back in the day, yet there were some people that were celebrities.


Chelsea

And there was a different style or type of celebrity era that would be living in the Palm Springs.


Chelsea

So you'd see a lot of, you know, kind of well known folks, lots of golf courses.


Chelsea

But it was.


Chelsea

It was pretty small.


Chelsea

And from what I'm told, I haven't really been back.


Chelsea

I kind of left and, and never looked back.


Chelsea

And I do need to make it back there one day.


Chelsea

It probably looks quite a bit different, but I hear it's a lovely place to visit now.


Host

Yeah, just.


Host

Just four short hours away across a major expanse of nothingness.


Host

It's.


Host

You're real close.


Chelsea

Yeah.


Chelsea

Well.


Chelsea

And then there's more nothingness around Palm Springs, except there's a lot of palm trees.


Chelsea

So you definitely know when you've entered and when you've exited.


Host

I was going to say the one thing I always think of Palm Springs is wind.


Host

You can get some serious wind blowing through that.


Host

That part of the desert.


Host

So that I'm sure those dust storms were a lot of fun.


Chelsea

Yeah.


Chelsea

Tumbleweeds.


Host

Yeah.


Host

There you go.


Host

There you go.


Host

So you come to Arizona.


Host

I know that I'm a fellow Sun Devil.


Host

You're a Sun Devil.


Host

So I always love seeing that you did your time at asu.


Host

And looking back at your history, your degree is in clinical psychology.


Host

So I'm just guessing that knowing how kind of wacky the real estate space can be, were you already preparing in advance for real estate or was something else on your radar?


Chelsea

You know, it's a funny story, you know, getting to Arizona, the reason that I transferred from California to Arizona was so that I could go to school here.


Chelsea

Funny story about that is I went to private Catholic school my whole life.


Chelsea

And Once you graduated 8th grade in Palm Springs, there really wasn't anywhere to go, so I actually was on track to become a nun.


Chelsea

Shocking, I know.


Chelsea

I know things you never knew about me, Bill.


Chelsea

And so the nuns at my school in Palm Springs were of the same order of nuns at a local high school here.


Chelsea

And so I moved out here to go to that high school, and I actually graduated early.


Chelsea

I went to ASU when I was, I think 16 or 17, graduated when I was 20.


Chelsea

So my experience at ASU was very different than most people's.


Chelsea

I didn't go out anywhere.


Chelsea

I didn't live on campus.


Chelsea

It was totally different, which I do actually regret.


Chelsea

So I kind of got out and started working.


Chelsea

But, you know, the funny thing about my degree is that I really wanted to be like those serial serial killer profilers, right?


Chelsea

I wanted to be one of those people that you see in the TV shows and the movies.


Chelsea

And then I started really realizing I was pretty sensitive.


Chelsea

And I thought, well, geez, I can't do that, because that's just.


Chelsea

I don't know if I could handle that kind of thing.


Chelsea

And then I thought, well, I'll be a therapist.


Chelsea

And then I realized it's probably not a good idea for a therapist to be crying in every session with their clients.


Chelsea

And I'm super sensitive.


Chelsea

So I didn't end up going into that profession, but it did serve me well in sales and marketing and understanding how to work with people and perspectives, trying to put myself in other people's shapes shoes.


Chelsea

So certainly it has come in handy.


Host

I'm just going to guess Xavier then, for high school.


Chelsea

Yes, Yes, I went to Xavier.


Chelsea

And if there's any Phoenix listeners, xcp, go Gators.


Chelsea

You know, you know it.


Host

That's awesome.


Host

The Brophy Xavier connection.


Host

There are a lot of.


Host

There are a lot of people that I know that attended one of those two schools, you know, the boys or the girls?


Chelsea

Well, let me tell you, our son is five years old, that is not even in kindergarten, and we are getting him on a list to go to Brophy.


Chelsea

Like, that's how serious.


Chelsea

Like, the people who went there, I mean, you got to get on.


Chelsea

You got to get in early.


Chelsea

So, yeah, it's pretty awesome.


Chelsea

I loved high school.


Chelsea

It was a great experience.


Chelsea

And people who are here, local, they know what a great opportunity it is to be able to go to an incredible school.


Chelsea

And now there's a few more out here that didn't exist back in the old days when I went.


Chelsea

But it's, you know, it's.


Chelsea

It's awesome to be able to have had parents that, you know, really thought about how can we provide this type of education for our kids.


Chelsea

So that was awesome.


Host

So you graduated from asu.


Host

What'd you do right away?


Host

What was your first job out of school?


Host

Now you're only 20.


Chelsea

I was working while I went to college, so I had an apartment and I was working, and I happened to be working in the fitness industry.


Chelsea

There was a big gym right across from campus, and so I was doing personal training and working there at the gym.


Chelsea

And so I thought, oh, my gosh, I want to work.


Chelsea

I want to have a job.


Chelsea

I think a lot of people out of college, at least when I graduated, were like, oh, so excited to be working.


Chelsea

And now I'm thinking, man, I should have spent more time in school because I'm going to be working for the rest of my life.


Chelsea

But I was working in a gym, and that gym actually was going under, and I got another job as operations and administration at a gym, and that's where I ended up meeting Brian, my husband.


Host

Right.


Host

So Brian.


Host

Brian Peitz, who will soon be a guest on the podcast as well, I'm sure.


Host

He.


Host

He is with Chicago Title in Phoenix.


Host

You were at.


Host

When I met, you were working with the sister company Fidelity National Title in Phoenix.


Host

And.


Host

And so you met.


Host

And obviously you're both very much into fitness.


Host

It's obvious that anyone that's met you knows that, and that's how you meet.


Host

Was he already in the real estate industry at this time?


Chelsea

No.


Chelsea

So our story is very interesting.


Chelsea

We have actually worked either together in the same company or industry our entire history of knowing each other.


Chelsea

So we've always worked in the same industry or we've been in actually the same company.


Chelsea

And so when I met Brian, he was the weekend sales manager, and I was doing all of the admin and the operations and the accounting, and that was at the gym.


Chelsea

So we met at the gym, and we actually went out of state.


Chelsea

State.


Chelsea

We were.


Chelsea

We were.


Chelsea

We got jobs as fixers, people who would take bankrupt gyms and go and fix them and build them up and, you know, hire staff, and it was really great.


Chelsea

We were in our young 20s.


Chelsea

We didn't know anything.


Chelsea

We didn't know any better.


Chelsea

And it was amazing.


Chelsea

And we learned a big lesson because we moved everything out of state.


Chelsea

And the person that I trusted, that was a mentor of mine, ended up embezzling all the money.


Chelsea

And I found out about it, and he took five people's salaries for an entire year, all their mortgage payments, and we had nothing.


Chelsea

So I literally opened the doors of the rented house that we couldn't afford because we didn't have any money.


Chelsea

And sold everything.


Chelsea

And to this day, I still remember selling my KitchenAid mixer.


Chelsea

Any woman who has ever had a KitchenAid mixer literally just grasped their.


Chelsea

Like, clutched their chest and went, I sold it for $50.


Chelsea

Oh, my gosh, it was awful.


Chelsea

And I refused to buy one again.


Chelsea

I mean, because it's such a symbol of that time when we lost everything.


Chelsea

Now we were super young, so we came back to Arizona and moved in with Brian's mom in a really small house.


Chelsea

And we didn't know what we were going to do.


Chelsea

And Brian thought, well, I'll just get my real estate license while we're figuring it out.


Chelsea

And I said, okay, I'll get mine, too.


Chelsea

We never planned to go into real estate.


Chelsea

And Here we are 16 years later in that same industry.


Host

Did you and Brian together then hang your license with Arizona Best right away?


Host

Is that where you started your.


Chelsea

No, we actually sent resumes to every single new home builder in the state of Arizona.


Chelsea

And I got one interview, and he got one interview, and we both landed those jobs.


Chelsea

And he ended up working for KB Home and ended up being a regional sales manager for them.


Chelsea

I worked for.


Chelsea

At the time, it was Continental homes.


Chelsea

Now it's Dr.


Chelsea

Horton.


Chelsea

And so we both worked again, Same industry, but different companies.


Chelsea

And then I went into residential resale and did that for quite a long time.


Chelsea

Brian opened up a business, and then he went into residential resale.


Chelsea

So never at the same place at the same time.


Chelsea

But, yeah, we were both.


Chelsea

We were both licensed agents for a number of years.


Host

And that's right in the heyday of the.


Host

This is back when there were lotteries to get lots right in the new building.


Chelsea

Oh, my gosh.


Chelsea

I think my record in one day was 13 contracts.


Chelsea

Wow.


Chelsea

Yeah, it was crazy here.


Host

Yeah.


Host

Yeah.


Host

I think for.


Host

For people that are around the country, you know, Phoenix.


Host

And there were other places just like Phoenix.


Host

Vegas comes to mind, you know, quickly.


Host

But, yeah, it was you.


Host

People would line up for days just to get their name on a list to hopefully be chosen for, like, the three.


Host

Three lots that were released that day, you know, so they.


Chelsea

Exactly.


Chelsea

Yeah.


Chelsea

It was very, very, very out of the ordinary.


Chelsea

And it was not a good thing.


Chelsea

I mean, obviously, by the big burst, it was really terrible.


Host

Yeah, we found out.


Host

So you.


Host

Eventually both Brian and you end up heading into, we'll call it, the corporate world.


Host

Right.


Host

When I say that, I mean, you know, a Fortune 500 company with, you know, the Fidelity National Financial family.


Host

So let's talk about that decision.


Host

How did we get to this point.


Host

And I think at this point, is Mason in the scene?


Host

Maybe not quite.


Host

He's close.


Chelsea

No, no.


Chelsea

Yeah, He.


Chelsea

He wasn't.


Chelsea

He wasn't here yet.


Chelsea

I, as a residential real estate agent who, you know, had gone through really great years, I started to go through the really bad years, and again, Brian and I lost everything a second time.


Chelsea

We lost our personal residences, we lost our investment properties.


Chelsea

We were both in the real estate world at a time when everything came crashing down.


Chelsea

And so for the second time in our lives, we moved in with Brian's mom.


Chelsea

And.


Chelsea

Yeah.


Chelsea

So I said, gosh, I don't really think that I can go to work every day and sit across kitchen tables with families who are losing their home and crying, and it's just so devastating.


Chelsea

And that's what it was like for us.


Chelsea

And even Florida and Vegas, I mean, families were losing their homes every single day, and it was really, really depressing.


Chelsea

And so I ended up going on an interview with Fidelity, and honestly, I don't even remember how I ended up there.


Chelsea

And I got the opportunity to become their marketing director, and it was amazing.


Chelsea

It's probably the best thing that I.


Chelsea

Best decision I ever made.


Chelsea

And it really helped me learn so much.


Chelsea

And I still got to work in the industry that I love so much with, with real estate agents and doing that.


Chelsea

So it was perfect.


Host

This is around 2010, right?


Chelsea

Yes.


Host

So social media exploded for us.


Host

Maybe we'll call it 08.


Host

So as an agent, you were already probably playing with those tools.


Host

Kind of understood a little bit about it.


Host

But in your new role with Fidelity, what was that?


Host

Was there like an aha moment where you're like, wow, this is really important stuff, or did you have to focus more on the more traditional marketing stuff?


Host

I'm always curious about people that were.


Host

That.


Host

That transition where we went from postcards to posts.


Chelsea

Right, right.


Chelsea

Well, you know, I think our particular industry of real estate in many cases is a few years behind some other industries.


Chelsea

And that's.


Chelsea

I think that you'd probably agree with that.


Chelsea

I don't think it's.


Chelsea

It's per se regional.


Chelsea

I just think it's maybe the nature of our.


Chelsea

Of our industry and some others.


Chelsea

So I still think that really this sort of like renaissance awakening of people realizing, hey, I need to go digital, I need to be on social media, really didn't even happen probably until, I would say, 2013, 2015.


Chelsea

And when you're working for a corporate company, there's a lot of levels and layers and really creating beta tests and pilot programs to say, hey, this is what's working.


Chelsea

Let's try this.


Chelsea

So I would say we focused a lot more on some of the traditional methods, and then at the latter half of my tenure with them, it became much more focused on the digital presence piece and building your brand through social media.


Host

You've really built a personal brand that's been super fun to watch grow over the years.


Host

And I really love the fact that you're so open and honest about your life.


Host

And I know that that's something you, you know, you would encourage others to do, but there's a lot of people that struggle with that.


Host

You've heard it a million times.


Host

I know you have, like, oh, I'm just too private, or, oh, I can never do what you do.


Host

What do you say to those people when you're having that conversation with somebody that, you know, needs to be, you know, really kind of sharing that kind of stuff?


Host

How do you.


Host

How do you convince them?


Chelsea

Well, there's.


Chelsea

There's two ways I go about it.


Chelsea

One, I'm very honest about.


Chelsea

You know, you hear this marketing speak about being authentic and telling a story.


Chelsea

You know what, it's really hard to start doing that if you've never done it before.


Chelsea

So that's kind of the one piece of it is, is the practice and consistency.


Chelsea

And as you do more of it, you become more relaxed, you become more who you are.


Chelsea

But you're not going to turn on the camera or look at your phone and be exactly who you are for the majority of us.


Chelsea

So that's one piece of it.


Chelsea

The other piece is that, you know, people tell me all the time I couldn't do what you do.


Chelsea

I have a boring life.


Chelsea

I hate being in front of the camera.


Chelsea

I hate my voice.


Chelsea

Well, so did I.


Chelsea

I didn't watch anything back for an entire year, which, frankly, I could have gotten a lot better a lot quicker.


Chelsea

But I also knew myself, and I knew that I would stop if I watched myself back.


Chelsea

So that's.


Chelsea

It's.


Chelsea

It's a.


Chelsea

It's a very normal fear.


Chelsea

You know, we're always the people that look at ourselves and pick ourselves apart.


Chelsea

The other thing is that when you're.


Chelsea

When you're on camera or you're sharing your life, you don't have to share everything.


Chelsea

I've really opened up a lot of my life, but there are certainly pieces of it that I don't share, and that's a completely personal decision.


Chelsea

You may not want to share your kids, you may not want to Share certain moments.


Chelsea

And of course I believe that there's a lot of oversharing that happens.


Chelsea

I don't need to see everything that someone's doing in their life.


Chelsea

But like someone said to me in 2007, they said, are you going to go buy one of those new iPhones?


Chelsea

And I laughed and looked them in the face and said, why?


Chelsea

My flip phone makes great calls.


Chelsea

And now I can't imagine my life without an iPhone.


Chelsea

So I think it's more of a mindset shift that we have to remember.


Chelsea

We didn't have Amazon a few years ago, we didn't have iPhones 10 years ago, but that doesn't mean that we haven't had shifts.


Chelsea

And now it's very commonplace.


Chelsea

Just like being on the camera and communicating screen to screen is going to become, in my opinion, commonplace.


Host

I, I can't interview you without talking about Snapchat and the Snap Pack.


Host

I think that now, you know, Jason's been on the show and Dustin's been on the show.


Host

I got to get Bucky on here.


Host

And you know who else?


Host

Neil Shannon.


Host

So talk about how important that has been in, in kind of where your path has gone.


Host

How, how.


Host

Just kind of how that started things rolling.


Chelsea

Yeah, so the Snap Pack started out as five people on Snapchat talking and we ended up talking so much that we one day decided to meet.


Chelsea

And yes, that sounds weird.


Chelsea

I still think that's weird.


Chelsea

I am an almost 40 year old woman who did not grow up with social media.


Chelsea

My son will not think it's weird, but I think it's totally bizarre and a little unsafe to think, hey, I'm gonna go travel and meet some people that I'd never met before except on Snapchat.


Chelsea

But you know, we're kind of in a different world now and you know, you get to know people in just different ways.


Chelsea

And so we decided that we were gonna start doing a lot of things together.


Chelsea

And quite frankly, it, it grew on its own.


Chelsea

This group, this Facebook group, and then we had some conferences where we all came together and we shared everything with each other and we just thought, you know, we're tired of going to conferences that don't give the actual goods or, you know, oh, you got to sign up and pay for this and then you can find out how to do it.


Chelsea

We're just practitioners, like actually doing it and we're sharing everything we learn.


Chelsea

And you know, another thing that was really great is they became my, not only my friends and family, but they came my cheerleaders, you Know when I said, hey, I think I want to write a book, they're like, yes, do it.


Chelsea

Stay on track.


Chelsea

Don't give up.


Chelsea

When I told them, hey, I'm thinking about launching my own company, they're like, brilliant, do it.


Chelsea

You have to.


Chelsea

And I call them all the time and I'm like, just, I feel like giving up.


Chelsea

I don't know what I'm doing.


Chelsea

I had, I had the day yesterday and they became really my, my community of support.


Host

Let's, let's talk about the book.


Host

It was last year, maybe a year and a half ago in my.


Chelsea

Yeah, last year, last year.


Chelsea

Announced it in February.


Chelsea

I said, last February, I'm going to write a book.


Host

Yeah, that's right.


Host

You, you made a, you, you put it out there for accountability.


Host

Was like thousands of people.


Chelsea

Yes.


Host

So you wrote a book called Talking in Pictures.


Host

And, and you have been promoting for a few years now this camera first vision.


Host

Right.


Host

And, and I think the book was kind of through the Snapchat lens, but now with the way Facebook and Instagram Live have just kind of exploded on the scene, you're really just talking about picking up that phone and looking at it and using that to, to build relationships.


Chelsea

Right, exactly.


Chelsea

The book isn't as much about using Snapchat.


Chelsea

I mean, there is a lot of that in there.


Chelsea

But it's really about how Snapchat was this catalyst.


Chelsea

It was the first time we ever had this real time visual communication that was with us all the time.


Chelsea

And it was different than the other platforms because people were just being real because it was more private and, you know, behaviors got trained and people started to accept the non edited, you know, not the amazing YouTube with the intros and the outros.


Chelsea

It was just people talking.


Chelsea

And it was kind of like this new version of reality tv, when reality TV was actually real.


Chelsea

And the cool part about it was that not only could I watch this reality tv, I can actually talk to the people while they were telling their story.


Chelsea

And so that's why Snapchat was so important.


Chelsea

It could go away tomorrow.


Chelsea

The important part of it is that now we, we use the camera in a different way and it's to communicate.


Chelsea

And that's, I believe, what consumer behavior is being trained for right now.


Chelsea

Just like we've all been trained for Amazon.


Chelsea

You know, all of us want it quick.


Chelsea

We want to push a button and that's what we want.


Chelsea

And just like cameras, people are going to start expecting to see people on video.


Chelsea

And I would imagine in a few years if people can't find videos about you, they're going to start wondering, why not?


Chelsea

Almost like we do now with, oh, you don't have a Facebook account.


Chelsea

That's weird.


Chelsea

You know, we didn't think that 10 years ago it wasn't that weird.


Chelsea

But now we wonder, well, what are they hiding?


Chelsea

Is there something wrong?


Chelsea

Like, what's wrong with them?


Chelsea

They're not on social media.


Chelsea

Right.


Chelsea

Which is kind of an odd thing for people in our generation to wrap their head around, because we didn't grow up with that.


Chelsea

So it really is more about the camera in general and how we're communicating with one another through it than specifically Snapchat.


Chelsea

But it is thanks to Snapchat that we have Facebook Live and Instagram stories, which I love, by the way, both of those things.


Host

And it seems like Snapchat's going through a little bit of a change.


Host

I know you've been keeping everybody up to date on those, the recent changes.


Host

I love the phrase used discoverability, right, that Snapchat's not going to be as private as it used to be.


Host

Is that a safe thing to say?


Chelsea

It is, yeah.


Chelsea

They're.


Chelsea

They're, you know, they have to improve a little bit.


Chelsea

You know, they.


Chelsea

They're public now, so they've got to turn a profit.


Chelsea

So there is sort of that discoverability factor there.


Chelsea

But I think what people forget is that not all platforms are created equal, and that goes for anything.


Chelsea

Twitter, YouTube, they're all different.


Chelsea

And Snapchat was never trying to be a Facebook or an Instagram.


Chelsea

It just got lumped in there because people didn't know where else to put it.


Chelsea

And it's really more about communication.


Chelsea

It's more of a visual messaging app.


Chelsea

So, you know, it's funny because people say, gosh, I can't believe they made this algorithm change and now they took away my feed.


Chelsea

Well, remember, Snapchat was never about a feed of, like, scrolling through stuff.


Chelsea

It was about intention.


Chelsea

It was about, I want to go see Bill's story and see what's happening.


Chelsea

I'm going to go and physically tap on his story and watch it.


Chelsea

I'm not going to just open up my app and have it turn on automatically.


Chelsea

So it's just funny to me that.


Chelsea

And yes, as a user, I don't love the new interface, personally.


Chelsea

I mean, I'm not saying that I love it, but I do remember what their original goal is, and I applaud them for kind of bucking the trend and saying, this is what our values are.


Chelsea

This is what Our goal is.


Chelsea

And that's why we're making this change.


Chelsea

Because a lot of companies don't do that.


Chelsea

And they're not looking so good right now.


Chelsea

I mean, they've had a lot of challenges.


Chelsea

So I gotta give my, you know, to tip my hat to them for at least sticking with that.


Host

I tried to explain it this way to a lot of people now my age.


Host

Right.


Host

I'm a.


Host

I'm gonna proudly say late boomer, because that means I'm not an early boomer.


Host

But as a late boomer and talking to people my age about Snapchat, they would just, you know, roll their eyes, you know.


Host

You know, the.


Chelsea

I get that all the time.


Host

And I would say, you know, but I'm gonna tell you this about Snapchat.


Host

It's the closest thing online anywhere to a real conversation between two people.


Host

Because I challenge them.


Host

I say, we've been talking here for 20 minutes.


Host

What did I say 15 minutes ago?


Host

They don't know.


Chelsea

Right.


Host

You know, because they all, they like to freak out because it disappears.


Host

It goes away.


Host

And.


Host

And I said, just like a real conversation, things disappear and go away.


Host

We don't, you know, memorialize everything we say all the time.


Host

I think texting kind of conditioned us to be that way, especially in the real estate industry.


Host

Right.


Host

Because you could go back and check out the history.


Host

But you're right, it's a conversation tool, but just done visually, right?


Chelsea

Exactly.


Chelsea

And something I always.


Chelsea

People ask, well, how do I grow?


Chelsea

How do I grow?


Chelsea

And I'm like, no, you're missing the point.


Chelsea

If I was in front of 150 people every single day, I mean, 150 is not that many.


Chelsea

Right?


Chelsea

But they were listening and talking and having conversations.


Chelsea

And you're having meetings with those people every day.


Chelsea

I mean, imagine what you could do with those 150 people versus 15,000 people that you drive VI on the freeway, right?


Chelsea

It's just, to me, it's like I'd rather have.


Chelsea

And we talk about real estate.


Chelsea

You talk about that sphere, your best clients, your repeat.


Chelsea

They send you repeat and referral business.


Chelsea

It's the concept of that within Snapchat.


Chelsea

And let me tell you, it is moving that way to every platform.


Chelsea

It's.


Chelsea

I'm so excited that things are going to be less hackable, less growth oriented and more real.


Chelsea

Like, let's have a real conversation.


Host

I saw you speak in January at the Inman Connect event.


Host

You were on the TechConnect stage, if I remember right, Agent Connect or TechConnect talking about social and a lot of the things you talk about, you killed it on stage.


Host

Tons of great comments.


Host

Brad Inman was, was made aware of it and he's talking about you.


Host

I just.


Host

Well, first of all, congratulations on such a great presentation.


Host

It's going to.


Host

You'll be doing a lot more things with them.


Host

You're also a contributor within.


Host

Talk about how important, you know, that whole Inman community has been for you.


Chelsea

Oh, yes.


Chelsea

I mean, how many, I can't even say how many great things about the Inman community and Brad Inman.


Chelsea

I have been a fan girl of his from afar that he didn't even know about.


Chelsea

But yes, Inman is so great for a variety of reasons.


Chelsea

One, it's a resource.


Chelsea

They're a thought leader which all of us want to become in our own brand.


Chelsea

So they're such an iconic brand in our industry.


Chelsea

They're cutting edge, they're on top of everything.


Chelsea

And I love that they bring in new blood.


Chelsea

It's not the same conference every year.


Chelsea

In fact, they do two conferences a year and it's different every single time.


Chelsea

Even if you're going from the New York conference to the San Francisco conference, it's very different.


Chelsea

And the networking is beyond phenomenal.


Chelsea

And I think every real estate tech company ever started there.


Chelsea

I mean, didn't Zillow start there in their startup alley?


Host

Yeah, they were there happy thinking of the people.


Host

Startup alley.


Chelsea

Yeah, it's very, yeah, they, they really launched jobs and careers by, by bringing people together that, you know, hey, I've got a great product and then there are the right people in the room that are looking and now we've, you know, got exposure and then we explode.


Chelsea

So it's really, it's a phenomenal conference.


Chelsea

Not just saying that because I, because I speak there and write for them, but it's one of my favorite things to do every year.


Chelsea

I'd never gone to the New York version of it.


Chelsea

This was my first time, which was so fun and very different from the San Francisco version.


Chelsea

And I'm super excited to be going this summer to the San Francisco Inman Connect as well.


Chelsea

But I mean, you've had the experience with them.


Chelsea

I'm sure that I have, where everybody is just passionate and excited and the buzz at the event, even, especially in the expo hall is just really, bar none.


Host

Yeah, I agree.


Host

It's a powerful place to make really wonderful connections, relationships that for me have lasted since, I mean, I think my first event was in 2010 and there are still people to this day that I'm very close friends with that I met at Emman.


Host

So I love it.


Host

I know you and Jason are cooking something up.


Chelsea

We are, yeah.


Host

Tell me what you're doing there.


Host

And this is Jason Frazier.


Host

We should introduce Jason so people remember.


Chelsea

Yes, Jason Frazier, AKA the real estate cio.


Chelsea

We have been cooking up a little secret project for a while.


Chelsea

We've been teasing it out a little, little bit.


Chelsea

But, you know, Jason and I are really passionate about education and we get asked all the time, where can I find more of your content?


Chelsea

How do you do this?


Chelsea

And I thought, well, why don't we take everything that we're already creating content on YouTube and Facebook Live and Snapchat and Instagram stories and put it in a place where people can access it.


Chelsea

So we're going to be launching some really out of the box unique training style of programs that are going to be, I think what makes us different is a few things.


Chelsea

One, it's, it's going to be in a format that everybody can learn from, whether you like to learn visually, you like to hear it or you like to read it.


Chelsea

Right.


Chelsea

So there's going to be, it's going to hit everyone and it's also going to be not just one thing.


Chelsea

It's not going to be basic or it's not going to be advanced.


Chelsea

It's literally going to run the gamut.


Chelsea

And I'm the kind of person my brain doesn't process like everyone else.


Chelsea

I really need to know.


Chelsea

Break this down for me in a step by step process.


Chelsea

I want pictures, I want descriptions, I want to know all the details.


Chelsea

Now, some people don't.


Chelsea

They just want the video with the overview.


Chelsea

Well, that's great.


Chelsea

They can do that.


Chelsea

But if somebody wants just a high level overview or somebody wants to really drill down into it, we've got it all.


Chelsea

And we're going to cover a variety of topics from chat bots and how to use those in your messenger, for your Facebook page, to Snapchat, Instagram, Basically anything you could think of that would fall under digital marketing, branding, paid social ads and even customer experience, consumer experience, and what that looks like in a 2018 digital world.


Host

That'll be fun to watch for.


Host

I can't wait.


Host

I've had you more than the half hour I asked of you, so I'm going to ask you the same question I've asked everybody on the podcast.


Host

You probably know it's coming.


Host

Give me that one piece of advice you'd give a new agent.


Host

Just getting started in the Business.


Chelsea

Oh, gosh.


Chelsea

Distilling that down into one piece, I would say for me, I think personal branding is first and foremost.


Chelsea

I think once you know what you are passionate about and kind of what I call your core message, your unique value proposition, whatever it may be, and it's gotta be something legit, it can't be like, I give excellent service, right?


Chelsea

So one of the things you hear me say over and over again in my show is that I provide marketing tips, tools and strategies that help people grow their business and make more money doing what they love.


Chelsea

I think everybody has to have their own tagline and not just have a tagline, but believe it and share it and live it every single day because that becomes your personal brand.


Chelsea

And so whatever you decide to do, whether it's online, lead gen, social media, traditional marketing, door knocking, postcards, if you are clear on that brand and you are communicating that, then everybody else will be lining up to you know that you're going to attract the right kind of person and they're going to know what you're all about.


Chelsea

So that's probably one of the harder things to do as a new agent.


Chelsea

But I think if you can nail that, everything else gets really easy.


Host

So I actually understood the Chels chat intro for the first time.


Host

That was awesome.


Chelsea

Do you want to hear the story about why it's so quick?


Chelsea

Okay, so intro that you're talking about is back in the old days of Snapchat.


Chelsea

You had 10 seconds and I had this intro because I'm thinking broadcaster.


Chelsea

And that was what I knew at the time.


Chelsea

And so I thought, I'll have an intro.


Chelsea

And I had to start saying it really quickly.


Chelsea

And then people kept commenting, oh my gosh, you talk really quickly.


Chelsea

Are you like one of those auctioneers?


Chelsea

And it became kind of a funny thing.


Chelsea

And then I started doing it faster and faster and faster really, because I was just trying to get through it and some of it for comedic effect.


Chelsea

And people would message me and say, I have no idea what you're saying at all.


Chelsea

And it would be like, you know, the laughing emojis and all of that.


Chelsea

And then it became a weird contest around the world where people from all over the world would try to repeat what I was saying and send me those videos.


Chelsea

And so it's kind of just become a brand of its own.


Chelsea

I've tried to stop it and it's just, I feel like it just, it took on a life of its own.


Chelsea

But yes, so that I do have an intro that I say repeatedly and Let me tell you, people remember parts of it.


Chelsea

They remember brand build, do more of what you love.


Chelsea

And I'm excited that they remember that part because that is really what I want people to do, is to be empowered with tips, tools, and strategies that can really help save them time and money and then do more of whatever it is they love.


Chelsea

And so people do remember it.


Chelsea

And as silly as it is, like, like jingles on, you know, a radio ad, you remember those things.


Host

Yeah.


Host

Now, is it too awkward for you to just kind of let the audience hear exactly what it sounds like?


Chelsea

Let me see if I can remember it.


Chelsea

I think it goes something like, what's up, everyone?


Chelsea

It's Chelsea Chad Snapshot Real Estate Marketing Snappily Ever after, where I share marketing tips, tools and strategies with you that will help you grow your business and make more money doing what you love, but a lot faster.


Host

That's awesome.


Host

I love it.


Host

Chelsea, if someone wants to reach out to you, get in touch with you, or pick up a copy of Talking in Pictures, what are some of the places they can do all that?


Chelsea

They can definitely find me everywhere on social media with my first and last name.


Chelsea

So it's Chelsea Pite.


Chelsea

There's a dot usually between my first and last name and it's P E I T Z.


Chelsea

It's kind of an unusual last name, but Chelsea Pites is my are my handles on all my social media platforms.


Chelsea

They can actually go to talkinginpicturesbook.com talkinginpicturesbook.com to find out more information.


Chelsea

You can also find me through there.


Chelsea

And yeah, I'm on all social platforms.


Chelsea

I'd love to connect with everyone.


Host

Chelsea, thank you so much for your time and your stories.


Host

Amazing.


Host

It's exactly what I thought it would be, except I might use the none thing a little bit when I'm promoting this post.


Host

I hope that's okay.


Chelsea

Yes, absolutely.


Host

Thanks for all.


Host

Thanks for your time.


Host

I really appreciate it.


Chelsea

Thank you.


Bill Risser

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